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Vern
Jerry Garcia
Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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Location: Oklahoma
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| In your Traffic Stops Video during one stop you said you smelled pot in the car, but didn't say anything and let the man sign the ticket before asking for consent to search. You said the man would have been free to leave after signing the ticket. My question is would you really let him get away after you smelled weed in the vehicle? Wouldn't you have found another reason to stop him again? |
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YouAreOurVoice
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Joined: 15 May 2008
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Good question i also wondered if that meant after signing the ticket and he asked you to search,could you just say...." well i would let you but i am in a hurry to get somewhere, i am free to go right officer?"
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KrazyKracker
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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As soon as you sign the ticket you ARE free to go. If the officer asks you to search after you sign you don't have to let him. Just tell him no and drive off.
After you sign the ticket the traffic stop is over.
I'm pretty sure thats how it goes. If I'm wrong correct me on this. |
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Barry
CEO/NeverGetBusted.Com
Joined: 03 Apr 2007
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Location: Texas
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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You are all getting close! Here is the answer to the riddle:
I would often smell marijuana without telling the suspects. I wanted to carry them through the process of asking for consent. This is partly how I learned body language when a person is lying. I knew they had pot (or at least had it recently) so I wanted to see their response when asked to search.
I NEVER had any person tell me they were free to leave because the citation had been issued. If the suspects pulled that card, I would have immediately drawn my "probable cause" card and let them in on my secret...I smell pot! I would not have allowed them to leave.
This does not mean using the "free to leave" doesn't work. It just doesn't work when the odor of pot is present because the officer really doesn't need consent because he has probable cause!
I am currently writing the book: Traffic Stops. I will then write the book: NeverGetRaided. I know it seems I'm working backwards because the book usually comes first and the film later. I'm doing the opposite because of all the request for a more detailed look into the various chapters.
The books will be very detailed and deep.
The question you asked will definitely be covered in the book. Good question!
Barry |
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littlenut
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Joined: 20 May 2008
Posts: 72
Location: Around the corner from McDonalds in the US of A
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I can't wait for the day we can just all be honest with each other and forget about these silly games. There are so many other stresses in life. Let alone the impact of other family and friends when one gets busted. I know it has caused me some pretty uncomfortable times having to tell my family. My mom still doesn't know, but I had to tell my Dad and it was pretty tough. I am the only girl and the "perfect" one in my Dad's eyes. For 70 plus years old, he handled it pretty well. Again, just can't wait until this is over some day.
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Barry
CEO/NeverGetBusted.Com
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Location: Texas
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Well said littlenut and until it does change, the goal is to NEVERGETBUSTED!!!! lol. SMILES.
Barry |
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von
Jerry Garcia
Joined: 25 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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hey Barry, can you give us an ETA on the Book for purchase? nice!! 
peace & pot  |
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Barry
CEO/NeverGetBusted.Com
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Location: Texas
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My book writing was interrupted by CopBusters.
I'm trying to complete it within 6 months.
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Dr. Dope
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Location: Canada
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When i was watching the video with my friend i said that
"he's free to leave, but since Barry smells weed already he will either tail him for a bit and pull of him over or just tell him he smells it and still get the search" the police have all sorts of dirty tricks. |
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