Knowing WHEN to exit a traffic STOP - What are my rights?
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WildChild
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Barry wrote:
Can one of the moderators fix my quotes. They aren't working.

Barry
on it

update :

Took me a minute to figure out, you had selected to disable BBCode in your post! That's located right under the spell check button, so make sure to watch that big grin
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Mr.C
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Knowing WHEN to exit a traffic STOP - What are my rights Reply with quote
[quote="Barry"]
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And I NEVER said to comply with any search. I said "If you have a small amount hidden really well, refuse consent."




What???

Im Baffled.

Please Clarify.

Because I thought you said different as well on the video.

Thank You
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Barry
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Please re-watch the Traffic Stops video. I don't know how else to say it? What exactly don't you understand?

Barry
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abcdrcill
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If you have a small amount hidden really well, refuse consent.



I think he meant to say give consent.
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Mr.C
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
i wasnt trying to be a smartass,,i was honestly confused.

I agree you have never said to consent to just ANY search ,,

however,,i do know you said if my pot was hidden really well to GIVE consent to search.

probably an honest mis--statement,,but im not sure,,,just confused.
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Dr. Dope
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
when i watched the dvd i thought i heard him say that if the stash is well hidden and you are confident that you won't get busted and only have a joint or a very small amount, consent to search. i will re watch some of it tonight to confirm
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Vern
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have to watch again, I thought he said give consent if it were a small amount hidden well. Confused
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Dr. Dope
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
and i quote Barry Cooper, in the search and seizure section of his first dvd the very last sentence is the last sentence of this section.

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Even though you have the constitutional right to refuse consent; When you refuse, it raises a huge red flag. You can almost call it a huge reasonable suspicion. Upon refusing consent, that officer automatically knows now you have something to hide.Hes probably going to make a quick cursory search and then you'll be on your way. If you refuse consent he can do a weapons pat down search of your vehicle without your permission and upon patting the interior of your vehicle down for weapons, if he finds a marijuana seed or a marijuana pipe or something of that nature or if he smells marijuana than he is going to search your car without your permission. If you refuse consent to searc hes liable to get a narcotic detector dog, to walk around the outside of your vehicle. If that dog fails alert, as you learned in the k-9 section he could quite possibly cause that dog to false alert.. then you have no choice. He will also invite numerous other police officers at the scene. The call goes out on the radio, I've heard it 100 times 'i have a refusal i have a refusal.' and police come from everywhere to figure out how to get in that car, then they begin a real detailed search. SO REMEMBER IF YOUR STASH IS HIDDEN WELL LIKE TAUGHT TO YOU IN THIS DVD MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO GIVE PERMISSION TO SEARCH
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Barry
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well there ya go!!!! Did I mention to y'all I'm retarded? LOL. I fixed it. Y'all are correct, I meant to say "GIVE CONSENT."

Sorry for the confusion Mr C!!!

Peace,

Barry
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Dr. Dope
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You're not retarded Barry, just human laughing
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Vern
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Barry wrote:
Well there ya go!!!! Did I mention to y'all I'm retarded? LOL. I fixed it. Y'all are correct, I meant to say "GIVE CONSENT."

Sorry for the confusion Mr C!!!

Peace,

Barry
No problem, just watch the DVD again and re-submit the right answer. Razz
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Mr.C
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Barry wrote:
Well there ya go!!!! Did I mention to y'all I'm retarded? LOL. I fixed it. Y'all are correct, I meant to say "GIVE CONSENT."

Sorry for the confusion Mr C!!!

Peace,

Barry


HAH cool no prob man.
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