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socrateez
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 Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: What should parents tell their children? |
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Barry,
As a parent, I share your concern about our children being informed by TV propaganda, specifically in regards to Cannabis. This question comes from my wife:
How did you inform your children? What did you tell them? Should I sit them down in front of some antiprohibition documentaries to get "both" sides? Should this be approached like the "Birds and the Bees" speech? |
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palerider7777
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: good? |
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| i would tell them the pros and cons of it and that it can be every good as med use and stress control but also it's not something to do just because everyone else does it.and abuse of it is not good either they have to have a strong mind about it and anything else they do in life.it's better u tell them about it instead of some punk friend or someone on the street that would get them hooked on it for all the wrong reasons. + who knows what else. |
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socrateez
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Ive had some discussion with my 13 year old. I figured since that was the age I tried its definitely time. I didnt know what I was doing. Everyone in my social circle smokes including grandparents.
My child has recently been noting inaccuracies in government drug propaganda at least in regard to pot.  |
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Brute4291
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Words from the movie knocked up "No pills, No powder, but if it grows in the ground its ok." |
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Bongzilla
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Brute4291 wrote: | | Words from the movie knocked up "No pills, No powder, but if it grows in the ground its ok." |
Simple, and easy to follow. I'd add be careful with booze, lost a few friends in High School to Alcohol Poisoning.  |
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Brute4291
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| Ya, drinking and driving is bad too. Give them the real facts about alcohol. |
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Barry
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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The first thing a parent should do is teach their child the value and honor of keeping a secret. A great way to do this is tell the small child the contents of a Xmas gift and brag each day they keep it a secret. We made it a fun game for our kids and they were rewarded with praises during their success.
We also taught them to not keep secrets from us and if any other adult insisted to keep a secret to immediately tell us. This step protects our children from sexual predators who often demand secrets to be kept.
My email box contains several cases involving children telling on parents...usually by accident. This is why keeping "house" secrets is vital to a families security. (One small girl brought a marijuana leaf to school when required to bring a leaf for show and tell. The mom got raided because of it.)
After the parent is confident the child understands the value of a secret, then simply tell them all the truth you know about all the different drugs. Don't simply talk about how good pot is and how evil coke is because that is not true.
We teach drugs cannot be "good" or "evil" because they have no soul. Drugs are substances. We also teach as long as character qualities (honor, integrity, kindness, selflessness, etc.) do not get flawed from substance use then the use in not "abuse." The word "abuse" means so much to so many different people. Some think drinking a beer is abuse while some think shooting meth is not. This is why I think it is wise to concentrate on character qualities and not the substance, frequency or amount of use when deciding "abuse."
All parents should also make it clear to their child that prohibition causes more harm on us than the drug itself!!!!
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Bongzilla
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Well stated Barry! |
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dawsonspaw
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Very well stated,My step son is 21 years old now,I did not introduce him to Marijuana,just at 14 when he brought it to me,I did not flip out,I explained to him,my own personal opinion,and beliefs,and also the cons. He kept doing it,and eventually got tied up with coke and meth(not know to me at the time),but now all he does is smoke weed,and occasionally,drinks a bit of alcohol.he wants nothing else to do with any of the other drugs.But to this day my wife still blames me for the trouble he went through,for not freaking out,the first time.  |
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Barry
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Very respectfully your wife is wrong. Drugs do not make people do other drugs. Drugs do not make people commit crimes or be lazy. Character flaws do these things.
It's so easy for teachers, doctors, police and PARENTS to blame their child's behavior on drugs. The truth is the "abuser" is usually very selfish...they tend to want to meet their own need instead of helping to meet the needs of others. For instance: an alcoholic parent who chooses the bottle over spending some quality time with their children. The alcohol is not taking away time from the kid, the selfish father is! I don't judge fathers and mothers in this position because they are probably repeating how they were treated. I am merely pointing to what needs to be pointed out.
It is much harder for a teacher, parent or doctor to look at a loved one and say "your problem is selfishness, not drugs or alcohol" than point to the drug as the culprit.
Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Drugs don't kill people, their own choice power does along with prohibition.
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socrateez
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That really helps Barry, Thanks! I agree with character flaws being the root of the evils society sees in drug use. The gun analogy couldnt be more apt!
The same aspects of responsible use apply to pot as to guns. Except we all know pot isn't lethal.
That sets a nice framework to start with. |
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socrateez
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Brute4291
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One thing that i have seen a lack of in public schools is respect. I am not a parent, but i think children should learn respect, not so much where they call mom and dad sir and maam after yes and no. but enough so they know not to disrespect adults or teachers.
People with no respect usually dont do well. |
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| I am having a rough time deciding at what age to tell my kids about it. To young and they could very well get you in trouble. To old and the police may have already had there turn with them barry what do you think the happy median is? |
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stopthemadness
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| I don't think I am going to tell my son that I enjoy marijuana, I think I'm going to let him find out. If he never does, thats okay. In regards to discussing drugs and respect there of, looking back at my childhood, I would start talking about drugs at 10. This might be young to some, but I was sneaking and smoking at 8 and had seen pot by age 10. It needs to be instilled into the kid at an early age to have respect for certain things. Lead by example. If you drink you don't ever want to be drunk in front of your kids, but have a beer or too, that way they see you are enjoying something but you are also being respectful of the substance and not abusing it. If it came down to my son asking if I smoke pot, I believe I would lie until he reaches 15 or so. Like another said to young and they will rat you at, to old and.... you know. |
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