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Barry
CEO/NeverGetBusted.Com
Joined: 03 Apr 2007
Posts: 600
Location: Texas
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| Quote: | | If I can get a system that will help you cheat your SAT score would you buy it? I guess I am mad at society today for all of those people who want to cheat their way through life. Let's help other students get scholarships by getting false high scores on their SAT's. According to all on this site it would be a great idea. |
You still don't get it. Our criminal justice system is creating more harm on pot smokers than the harms caused by smoking pot. We have 1.5 million kids without parents because they are serving non-violent drug sentences. What causes more harm? Orphaning children or allowing the parents to smoke the pot? Of course the answer is to allow the parents to continue the harmless habit of smoking marijuana. Teaching people to stay out of a situation that can cause them to lose their freedom is far different from teaching kids how to cheat on a test. If you are having trouble seeing this argument clearly, you really need a course in logic and reasoning.
The reason you got bashed by some on this board is because you bashed me. I don't mind the bashing, but don't wine when we fire shots back. Your first post really makes you look like and uninformed, judgmental person.
| Quote: | Nice try Barry. By the way, were you busted for marijuana 5 times? Thanks for giving us the techniques to use so we can bust our clients! Keep on smokin'! Here comes number 6.
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I never post under a fake name and here are my five arrests: 1) Assault (fought two bikers who recognized me as an ex-narc) charges dismissed 2) Assault (bar fight) not-guilty by Reason of Self Defense jury. 3) Terroristic Threat plead down to verbal assault citation issued 4) Disorderly Conduct (arguing with a cop) 5) Theft (did not return Jeepers Creepers 1 and 2 on time to the video store (charges dismissed)
So you can see I have a history of dealing with mouthy people like you. Lighten your tone up a bit and maybe more will be friendlier to you here.
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OneManRevolution
Antiprohibitionist
Joined: 08 Apr 2007
Posts: 88
Location: Carrollton, TX
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: Just curious... |
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mjphoto45,
Just curious, do you know anything about the history of marijuana prohibition?
I'm not trying to be obtuse or spiteful, just wondering. I've have found that generally when someone reacts that vehemently to marijuana that they are unaware of the absolutely ridiculous, racist statements spouted on the US Senate floor in 1937 that lead to it's illegality.
As well as the grotesque racial disparity that continues to exist.
Just to put it in perspective, in 1983 in South Africa during the hey-day of Apartheid there were 851 black males, per 100,000 of the population in prison for ALL crimes. There was a worldwide out-cry that this was institutionalized racism and something must be done.
In 2004 in the US, there were 1,419 black males per 100,000 of the population in prison for NONVIOLENT DRUG OFFENSES.
Here's a little more history:
"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."
"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."
"Smoke a joint and you'll likely kill your brother.
-excerpts from Harry J. Anslinger's testimony before Congress in 1937
As a side note, Anslinger wrote numerous "papers" outlining that the reason that marijuana was the "Devil's Crop", because when jazz musicians smoked it time was distorted and they were able to fit in extra notes in their music. This of course was unnatural, therefor the work of Satan.
Various statistical data about race and incarceration rates from 1998 to 2001
According to the federal Household Survey, "most current illicit drug users are white. There were an estimated 9.9 million whites (72 percent of all users), 2.0 million blacks (15 percent), and 1.4 million Hispanics (10 percent) who were current illicit drug users in 1998." And yet, blacks constitute 36.8% of those arrested for drug violations, over 42% of those in federal prisons for drug violations. African-Americans comprise almost 58% of those in state prisons for drug felonies; Hispanics account for 20.7%.
Source: Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, National Household Survey on Drug Abuse: Summary Report 1998 (Rockville, MD: Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, 1999), p. 13; Bureau of Justice Statistics, Sourcebook of Criminal Justice Statistics 1998 (Washington DC: US Department of Justice, August 1999), p. 343, Table 4.10, p. 435, Table 5.48, and p. 505, Table 6.52; Beck, Allen J., Ph.D. and Mumola, Christopher J., Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prisoners in 1998 (Washington DC: US Department of Justice, August 1999), p. 10, Table 16; Beck, Allen J., PhD, and Paige M. Harrison, US Dept. of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics (Washington, DC: US Dept. of Justice, August 2001), p. 11, table 16
"The racially disproportionate nature of the war on drugs is not just devastating to black Americans. It contradicts faith in the principles of justice and equal protection of the laws that should be the bedrock of any constitutional democracy; it exposes and deepens the racial fault lines that continue to weaken the country and belies its promise as a land of equal opportunity; and it undermines faith among all races in the fairness and efficacy of the criminal justice system. Urgent action is needed, at both the state and federal level, to address this crisis for the American nation."
Source: Key Recommendations from Punishment and Prejudice: Racial Disparities in the War on Drugs (Washington, DC: Human Rights Watch, June 2000), from the web at http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/drugs/war/key-reco.htm
Among persons convicted of drug felonies in state courts, whites were less likely than African-Americans to be sent to prison. Thirty-three percent (33%) of convicted white defendants received a prison sentence, while 51% of African-American defendants received prison sentences. It should also be noted that Hispanic felons are included in both demographic groups rather than being tracked separately so no separate statistic is available.
Source: Durose, Matthew R., and Langan, Patrick A., Bureau of Justice Statistics, State Court Sentencing of Convicted Felons, 1998 Statistical Tables (Washington DC: US Department of Justice, December 2001), Table 25, available on the web at http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/scsc98st.htm, last accessed December 21, 2001.
Thirteen percent of all adult black men -- 1.4 million -- are disenfranchised, representing one-third of the total disenfranchised population and reflecting a rate of disenfranchisement that is seven times the national average. Election voting statistics offer an approximation of the political importance of black disenfranchisement: 1.4 million black men are disenfranchised compared to 4.6 million black men who voted in 1996."
Source: Fellner, Jamie and Mauer, Marc, "Losing the Vote: The Impact of Felony Disenfranchisement Laws in the United States" (Washington, DC: Human Rights Watch & The Sentencing Project, 1998), p. 8. Election statistics cited are from the US Census Bureau, "Voting and Registration in the Election of November 1996" (p20-504), July 1998.
One in three black men between the ages of 20 and 29 years old is under correctional supervision or control.
Source: Mauer, M. & Huling, T., Young Black Americans and the Criminal Justice System: Five Years Later (Washington DC: The Sentencing Project, 1995).
Regardless of similar or equal levels of illicit drug use during pregnancy, black women are 10 times more likely than white women to be reported to child welfare agencies for prenatal drug use.
Source: Neuspiel, D.R., "Racism and Perinatal Addiction," Ethnicity and Disease, 6: 47-55 (1996); Chasnoff, I.J., Landress, H.J., & Barrett, M.E., "The Prevalence of Illicit-Drug or Alcohol Use during Pregnancy and Discrepancies in Mandatory Reporting in Pinellas County, Florida," New England Journal of Medicine, 322: 1202-1206 (1990).[/quote]
I just figure, if the facts are on the table and we still disagree then the worst that can be said is we disagee with each others conclusions concerning marijuana prohibition. Honestly, the only thing you know about anyone on this board is that you have a different stance on marijuana. I really don't understand where the mean-spirited statements come from.
I know Barry and his wife, they are two of the nicest people you could meet. I'm just curious how you could profess to know so much about someone you've never met. Of course you may just discard the whole damn post, I may have a typo in there somewhere. 
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AJohn
Antiprohibitionist
Joined: 21 Apr 2007
Posts: 42
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: thank you |
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| mjphoto45 wrote: | | ...If I can get a system that will help you cheat your SAT score would you buy it? I guess I am mad at society today for all of those people who want to cheat their way through life. Let's help other students get scholarships by getting false high scores on their SAT's. According to all on this site it would be a great idea. I feel sorry for the this and the next generation of children. We could get into the debacles of war but that will be on another website. Have a great day! |
I bet most people who would cheat on a SAT do not smoke cannabis. |
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Buck
Antiprohibitionist
Joined: 24 Apr 2007
Posts: 68
Location: Southern US
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Let's help other students get scholarships by getting false high scores on their SAT's. According to all on this site it would be a great idea. |
And what's you been smoking? |
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Mr.C
Problem Child
Joined: 15 Jan 2008
Posts: 615
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Here we go! |
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| mjphoto45 wrote: | | With all of the sex, drugs and violence as seen on TV, movies and newspapers, it is no wonder why are children turn out the way they do. |
Very nice thread,,what a jackass this guy was,,and i say that because of the pompous ass attitude that was displayed. I know he/she will probably never read this but let me tell you something. First of all... OUR is spelled this way NOT ARE. (That is for mjphoto's own knowledge). After seeing this I wonder about mjphoto.s expertise.
Its three freakin letters you moron. Are you asking a question or making a statement? Pretty basic stuff.
Anyway,,my overall point to this is,,,this is the type of response (and mentality) we will have to get used to dealing with. When the facts are presented and sub-counciously they know they are in the wrong and the information is not on their side. They simply have no choice but to resort to this type of behaviour <--and that is an old english spelling so dont give me no shit 
anyway,,im relatively new to this forum yes but not new to forums in general and was reading through some old threads..I really liked this one,,,Good Job Guys |
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brightblueone
Concerned Citizen
Joined: 08 Mar 2008
Posts: 2
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: thank you |
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If I can get a system that will help you cheat your SAT score would you buy it? I guess I am mad at society today for all of those people who want to cheat their way through life. Let's help other students get scholarships by getting false high scores on their SAT's. |
If, hypothetically speaking, you did have a system to help people cheat on the SAT tests, then the best thing to do would be to make it public. If there were flaws with the system, the problem wouldn't be in exploiting those flaws, the problem would be with the system and it's ineffectiveness in determining knowledge. |
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420smoke all day
Concerned Citizen
Joined: 08 Apr 2008
Posts: 1
Location: minneapolis
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:53 am Post subject: Re: Here we go! |
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| mjphoto45 wrote: | First of all... a lot is spelled this way NOT alot. (That is for Barry's own knowledge). After seeing this I wonder about Barry's expertise but here we go.
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dont try to belittle barry to make yourself feel btter.
your actually the reason i decided to join this site. i have met with so many people just like you. i spent 5 months in a treatment center in Utah and guarantee i saw more than you did as a "drug technician" for a year. bro....you havent seen anything real...you see a bunch of kids who fear you for the power you hold over them, after 2 paraphernalia charges and a possession charge its fair to say ive been around and know what im talking about. we come in with a "problem" as most people who do your work would say, and you expect it to change over night. my mom always said since i was a kid that life is full of consequences...well you know what? life is short, we live, learn, and make mistakes...then we die.were not perfect and we werent created perfectly, so stop trying to dictate every aspect of the youths life, adults for that matter too. you may claim "im only doing my job", or my all time favorite..."im only trying to help", HA. B.S....your just making money so you can pay uncle sam. just as you claim..
| Quote: | Good luck making money on teaching others how to cheat. I hope you sleep well at night Barry!
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your basically making kids with "problems" cheat you...and then you get pissed? HA!!!!
you also claim that our children learn all the bad things....
| Quote: | With all of the sex, drugs and violence as seen on TV, movies and newspapers, it is no wonder why are children turn out the way they do.
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hey were a product of your environment. your generation created the drug craze, with acid in the 60's, coke and shrooms in the 80's, and look now youve even got a designer drug...Ecstacy!!! so dont complain about the drug problem that you and your generation(and all the baby boomers) created and failed to get rid of. why dont you let the next generation take care of it for you? besides POT...is not even a drug...its an herbal substance just as melatonin is. i mean come on viagra has more negative effects than MARY JANE. LOL |
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socrateez
Stoned Philosopher
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
Posts: 1226
Location: I'm the person to your right.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: Re: thank you |
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[quote="brightblueone"] | mjphoto45 wrote: |
If, hypothetically speaking, you did have a system to help people cheat on the SAT tests, then the best thing to do would be to make it public. If there were flaws with the system, the problem wouldn't be in exploiting those flaws, the problem would be with the system and it's ineffectiveness in determining knowledge. |
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von
Jerry Garcia
Joined: 25 Jan 2008
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looks like mjphoto45 got out the kitchen, it was to hot 
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