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Joe
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I know man....your right, GG's right, and, actually, I should know better regarding respect for Barry, for, as stated, I do really like him.....

(See, but problem is, I whip it out when I say mines bigger laughing.........I'm sorry man, I had to, was funny laughing...I assure you...while I sound firm sometimes, just amused.....more amazed than anything else...)

Your right. I apologize.....

(to you and to threadstarter also.....to you if sounded like snapping at you...was more matter of fact...and, threadstarter for feeding the trolls...I certainly do know better ...
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FZRaven
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well I would say that pretty much resolves that problem, so let's all try and keep this thread on track and friendly from here on out.

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Mr.C
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
lol its nice to have all that knowledge around i may be picking you guys brains pretty soon smile


what can you say people love their Mary J
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Joe
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
FZRaven wrote:
Well I would say that pretty much resolves that problem

Great! and on to the next one! laughing

laughing

just kidding wink

laughing
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palerider7777
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: i never ranted Reply with quote
all i clearly said was if u grow anything not just cannabis. but anything really if u baby it and give it everything it needs and give it the best of what it needs. it will for sure be better than say mexi dirt weed, or toms or whatever. as they don't grow in a perfect way. they just let it grow most of the time in bad conditions. anyone with a brain can tell the diffrence, and tell what one would be better.no i did'nt say u can make it stronger the potential in the strain is already there. it's just what u do to bring out the best it can be.

so i never flamed anyone only responded to all the cut downs and 12 year old talk i was getting from joe as he seemed to be doing it to everyone.
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Joe
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
As far as "12 yr old talk".....and behavior.....I stated things such as people were clueless, that I didn't like when those with no knowledge post on topics as if they possess some, and, responded to your trolling. (Read through......2 pages of you coming at me.....)

Now.........

If you would like to prove your point.....
If you would like to prove your knowledge......

Very simple......

Instead of repeated blanket statements (which I know not to be the case..wink.....

Try this:
Give me an example.

A specific example.....

Specific locations, rooms, strains, nutes.....

Provide an example of your statement wink

The suggestion above to re read was not a bad one....

Provide a specific example.

I never come down on anyone if they are incorrect.....I never come down on anyone for being mistaken......

I do though without hesitation come down hard on people who refuse to see they are incorrect about things and continue to push topic.....

Sorry....just how I am......

No shame in not knowing something......you learn it, and, then you know....such is life....

The example can be commentary about same clones in different outdoor locations....can be about same strain in different indoor locations, different methods...(coco vs. soil, coco vs. DWC,600's,1k's, etc.....)

Provide specific examples which lead you to believe in your position....

(Should be easy.......I've done in's, I've done outs...I've done outs no maintenance, I've done outs with full prep...have done open locations, and forest/canopy locations...have run soil, hydro under 6's, under 1k's.....and, have done ever same cuts in multiple situations at the same time for comparison....I'll easily get your explanation, I assure you wink
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palerider7777
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: lol whatever Reply with quote
yea u "come down hard on people" yea online i bet u don't act like that to people in the real world.if so im sure a. u get slapped around alot or b. no one wants to hang around u much. as most of what u say seems to be rambling ons. and as iv'e said b4 iv'e already tested it out and i know for a fact it comes out totally diffrent even the look so i don't have to prove anything to u. and what do u mean show u prove it to u??? umm lets see it breaks down to u give it good nutes,light,air, or u give it nothing what one do u think will be better.oh yea thats right to u the will come out the same.. ur trying to draw me into ur ramblings and i really don't have time.
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Joe
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I didn't even read the above.

If your not going to provide an example, simple say "I won't", or "I can't".

I've done clones from same mom side by side in many variations, and, can tell you exactly the differences of each situation.

So, your saying "you can't"........or are you saying "you won't"?.
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palerider7777
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joe wrote:
I didn't even read the above.

If your not going to provide an example, simple say "I won't", or "I can't".

I've done clones from same mom side by side in many variations, and, can tell you exactly the differences of each situation.

So, your saying "you can't"........or are you saying "you won't"?.
no i said i did already i didn't take pics so i don't know how i could show u
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Joe
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Site does not enable pictures. Pictures have nothing to do with example requested.

You've provided no firm commentary about anything discussed once in thread.

It very well may
represent "I won't", but, given the above, I'll take that as "I can't".

If you knew what you were referring to, yes, it would be very easy to provide examples.

Very easy.

btw........your last statement above?
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mm lets see it breaks down to u give it good nutes,light,air, or u give it nothing what one do u think will be better

Speaks volumes.......wink

I would be glad to break that statement down, but, you seem convinced you possess some sort of knowledge....and, it's obvious at this point your unable to participate in any degree of substance....

I asked for an example of your statements.....

You couldn't provide.....

I've provided commentary on a dozen or more examples of varying conditions above......no pictures necessary.

At ant time you are free to state maybe you were wrong......maybe you don't know as much as you think.....Maybe not experienced enough to know how many things come out under many different conditions, because you haven't done them.....(which most haven't.....most haven't run many methods in and out...most stick to one......)

Btw.......while I was somewhat amused last time......I'm not so much this time.....Growing tips....growing forum.....talking about growing?......Fine.....that's what I stop for....

Problem is......

We're not.....(not have we really.....)

It was amusing to speak to now growers or novice.....now it's not.......

I still am amazed at the concept of such participating in grow forums, but, that's another story.....

People would be better suited to know their areas of expertise, and which are not.
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palerider7777
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joe wrote:
Site does not enable pictures. Pictures have nothing to do with example requested.

You've provided no firm commentary about anything discussed once in thread.

It very well may
represent "I won't", but, given the above, I'll take that as "I can't".

If you knew what you were referring to, yes, it would be very easy to provide examples.

Very easy.

btw........your last statement above?
Quote:

mm lets see it breaks down to u give it good nutes,light,air, or u give it nothing what one do u think will be better

Speaks volumes.......wink

I would be glad to break that statement down, but, you seem convinced you possess some sort of knowledge....and, it's obvious at this point your unable to participate in any degree of substance....

I asked for an example of your statements.....

You couldn't provide.....

I've provided commentary on a dozen or more examples of varying conditions above......no pictures necessary.

At ant time you are free to state maybe you were wrong......maybe you don't know as much as you think.....Maybe not experienced enough to know how many things come out under many different conditions, because you haven't done them.....(which most haven't.....most haven't run many methods in and out...most stick to one......)

Btw.......while I was somewhat amused last time......I'm not so much this time.....Growing tips....growing forum.....talking about growing?......Fine.....that's what I stop for....

Problem is......

We're not.....(not have we really.....)

It was amusing to speak to now growers or novice.....now it's not.......

I still am amazed at the concept of such participating in grow forums, but, that's another story.....

People would be better suited to know their areas of expertise, and which are not.


wel i guess it's great for me as im not"most " people and frankly i don't care to point every step out to u as ur a pro grower u should know these things already and it's odd u say things like "the knowledge u think u have" u seem to say the to everyone that talks to u as if ur the end all know all of everything lmfao.ur right dude ur the best the bomb the king of dank all the above..........not.im not wasting my time trying to explain to u how to grow something if u know then great if not oh well....
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Joe
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
palerider7777 wrote:

wel i guess it's great for me as im not"most " people

What I said was most stick to one method.....

Since you say your not "most", that implies you have done several things, yet you refuse, or are unable to talk specifics........
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and frankly i don't care to point every step out to u as ur a pro grower u should know these things already and it's odd u say things like "the knowledge u think u have"

So you are taking part in a conversation that you refuse to participate in?......

Interesting wink.......

You had entire thread to do so........but you didn't......

You had entire thread to do so.....yet you now come up with excuses when asked directly......"You don't care to point it out" smile......

The what exactly are you doing right now?.....

What exactly are you doing in thread?....

I have tried to be civil and have a conversation 2 times already.....

Won't be a third....
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u seem to say the to everyone that talks to u as if ur the end all know all of everything lmfao.ur right dude ur the best the bomb the king of dank all the above..........not.

Not is right. I never claimed to be any of the above........That was you.......that was what you drew due to your feelings of inadequacy.....

What I did say.........wink

Is I am well aware of what I know, and well aware of what I do not. Nothing more, nothing less.

As far as "everyone"?

1. You mean the guy who said "resin" is what you scrape from a bowl?

2. Maybe the guy who said how all the best green is grown in labs....that cure has no effect.....that the benefits of fast and low strains like lowrider is they can be vegged only a couple months before flowering? wink (who you backed as "knowing what they were talking about".....what's his name.....?.....Hymen or whatever?

3. Or maybe the guy (you wink who speaks of his bomb bagseed yet "won't tell me" as you posted above......

Now..........

You can sit and run your bagseed..........he can sit and scrape his bowl..........and hymen can dream of a promotion all you like.......

Doesn't make you right.


It is what it is.....
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im not wasting my time trying to explain to u how to grow something if u know then great if not oh well....

That statement above, btw?

Universal translation the world over
wink

You were asked for an example of what you have been pushing entire thread........then back off and refuse........(a shame...I was waiting for it........did it involve giving plants good "air"?)

wink
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Bongzilla
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Highman's post deleted: Bongzilla
It's been debated amongst the mods how to deal with the ongoing fight here. The Consensus is that Joe knows the specifics of which he speaks.

Enough!!! We've heard from the dissenters who continue to argue that they know more about growing pot.

If a person reads through this they will see he actually knows his stuff.

Yeah Joe's a smartass. That is not misinformation, I personally am tired of misinformation on the board. We can deal with smartasses, and misinfo. Not both.

Sorry Highman, getting nitpicky got this last post deleted.

NO MORE PERSONAL ATTACKS PLEASE

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High Man
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You delete my post and say I am nitpicking but did you read my post or the information within it?

joes posts within this thread are pure bs and ad homs, you really think there is more there otherwise?

The "consensus" you speak of is injust and lacking in any scientific basis, like joe's statements. Other people even agree with what I say, why am I being censored here for being civil yet joe can flame and troll away? Hmmmmmmmm Think
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dawsonspaw
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I tend to agree with Highman,BUT the personal attacks on BOTH sides need to be abated,I have kept up with this ongoing flame job,and think that Joe needs to back off,pressing his knowledge,if he wants to start a new post,and giving step by step instructions,and not freaking out if somebody disagrees with him. Cool
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