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user234
Concerned Citizen
Joined: 30 Jan 2008
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 Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: Niacin |
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| I am trying to clean out my system, I got 2 weeks. I purchased some "flush free" niacin, but was later told that it does not help with detoxing. I was told i needed to get the kind that is not flush free. Does anyone know if there is a difference in the two products? |
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Mr.C
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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listen bro,,throw the crap in the garbage,,its not gonna help you in ANY way. niacin is simply a B vitamin nothing more,,when was the last time you took a vitamin and felt it was really clensing your body of anything? thats nothing more than a myth or urban ledgend..all things claiming to detox thc from your body is a scam,,dont forget that.
if you look at any of their ingredient lists you will see that the drinks are just vitamins in liquid and require you to drink massive amounts of water,,you can drink water alone and do the same thing for alot cheaper.
if you can substitute i always recommend the urinator.com they cant watch you piss unless you give them a reason,,their are acceptions like millitary or probabtion but for workforce they cant watch you.
i used to moderate the drug testing forums for about a year and a half several years ago at marijuana.com studied many hours on this subjest and helped thousands of people pass their tests.i gave it up due to not having enough time on the pc to keep it up.. if you want to study up go there,,the people they got their are very knowledgable and wont just tell you some bullshit of what they think but the truth from expierience and backed up facts.
you will get all the answers you need there.i personally tested the synthetic urine at a local lab with my own money and had them run it through a 75 panel adulterant test,,it came through with flying colors and have used it for about 7 years now to keep the lifestyle i enjoy.
you can thank ronald dumbass reagon for the situation your in if its a workplace drugtest your taking..he introduced it to the workforce in the 80s by executive order..hes dead and we still have to feel the bullshit he left behind.
go buy some drugtests from your local drug store its the only way to REALLY know where you stand n if u have anything to even worry about,,,i could give u an educated guess with more info but why take a guess when u can know for sure where u stand
anyway you MUST read this for your own safety about niacin
Good Day!
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20070407/fob4.asp
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Mr.C
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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let me tell you the expierience i had that got me into studying up on drug testing,,itll be short
i got high on a friday night one time,,then again on a sat night the next night,,then again before going to bed sunday night,,i got up monday morn went to work n first thing i was told I need to go take a piss test,,,,needless to say i was shitting bricks scared,,i didnt want to lose my job,,i liked it,,it pays well,,
well the only thing i had available was water n something inside me told me to drink ALOT of it,,(dont kill yourself drinking water please) i got to drive myself so i stopped at a store bought a gallong drank as much as i could,,pissed twice,,my piss was clear,,,drank more on the way and pissed clear for the test,,,I got lucky,,i passed and was very nervous for a few days till i realized i passed,,thats when i said screw this theres gotta be another way.
ive recently heard theyre gonna start driving me to the tests so even IM in a lil pickle now but i think i got it figured out.  |
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Vendico
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Mr.C
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: |
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you know if they could make that electronic like the urinator that would be an awesome device..but 150 bucks for heating pads? nahhh not for me,,i like the reliability of the electronic set and forget.
if your not being watched i personally dont care if its a rubber tube or real looking. the wizz is deffinately better than nothing,,but wayy too pricy for freakin hand warmers too warm the piss.
you know i knew what the wizz was but its been a while since i looked at it,,holy crap my jaw dropped when i seen how much they were charging for that.. thats just way too much for that device but i guess people are paying it. |
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Bongzilla
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Joined: 03 Oct 2007
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Location: Mountains in E Oregon
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| Used this product for years, never failed on a non supervised test. I always overheated, and was able to use the cold porcelain to cool it to the perfect temp.http://theurinator.com/whizzpack/ |
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DrugWarVeteran
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: |
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if you look on the ingredients of those $50 drinks you can buy to help you pass your drug test, you will always find 3 things:
Water: Drinking lots of water is the only thing that helps you pass. Your piss gets so diluted that there are no toxins in it. You are basically peeing pure water.
B Vitamins: the only thing these do is color your piss yellow. They don't 'flush your system' or anything like that. They just make your piss 'look right'. Because if you go in there pissing clear, the lab tech will more than likely know that you've been drinking a lot of water, and the good ones know that people do that in order to pass when they are dirty. Sometimes if they see clear piss, they won't accept it.
Creatine: Creatine is produced by the liver and all undiluted urine has a certain creatine level. Some of the more advanced drug testing facilities test the creatine level in your urine as another way of determining whether or not you have diluted your urine by drinking lots of water.
So there you have it. With those 3 things, you can pass your drug test. You can buy B Complex Vitamins and Creatine powder at the health store for under $10, and you'll have enough to pass many drug tests.
Here's the methodology:
4-6 hours before you know you have to take a test, start drinking as much water as you can. Take a few scoops of creatine powder and 2 - 4 B vitamin tablets with the water. Go to the bathroom at least twice during the time between when you drink the water and when you take the test. Keep drinking the water right up until you go to take the test.
This method is 90% foolproof. The only way you can really screw it up is if you don't wait long enough between the time you start drinking and the time you take the test. Obviously this will only work if you have advance knowledge of the test. Luckily, most of the time you do! If you are going to probation. do this every time. They may or may not test you, but you have to be prepared. Every single time I've been asked to take a drug screen for a job, they've always just said: "Here's the location of the doctor's office, just go tomorrow anytime."
Oh yeah, and if you know or suspect that you have a drug test tomorrow, don't smoke weed tonight, or the day of the test! That actually really helps.
Good Luck! |
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socrateez
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Location: I'm the person to your right.
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Ive used someone else's urine for years to pass job screenings. Works great but you have to remember a few things.
1) They know how long on average it takes to pee in cup. Time yourself at home.
2) They cant watch unless your on paper. They CAN and DO listen at the door! Make sure it sounds right.
3) If you are on any sort of supervision or parole, expect a mirror behind the toilet and personnel present if they are not in fact watching.
Method:
I use one of those big balloons with the rubber band on the end. The usually come two to a pack. You punch them. I see them in all the grocery stores. Wait till the head shops figure this out.
Heat urine to 100 degrees beforehand.
I fill it just full and place a cropped oral dose syringe into the end and cap it. tie a rubber band around the balloon and syringe, and there you go. The syringe opening may have to be widened to allow realistic streaming. I replace the rubber band on the end with a piece of string. I hang it from my front belt loop so that its positioned in my crotch next to the boys. Double tighty-whities for insulation. I also use a digital thermometer (no sound type) shoved down my pants to monitor temps.
When you test, stay calm, drop em to the floor, whip out your rubber piss rocket and fill that cup! I usually let a little go into the bowl at the end for added sound effect. (Ive actually caught people listening at the door!)
I can say with a high degree of confidence this DOES work! Urine temps run about 98.0 degrees after one to two hours in place. Well within specs and most time needed to test. (They usually make you wait even if your the only person there.)
FYI: This same method works for females the same way. Also, the balloon is not to large to fit vaginally if a partner is present to assist. |
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user234
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| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, I had no idea that niacin could be so harmful. Unfortunately, they watch me piss for some reason. I asked them to leave me alone and quit starin at my dick, but they refused to let me go to the bathroom alone. They have mirrors on either side of the pisser that show the person standing behind you all of your shit, so the wizzinator would not work for me. Even other probationers waiting to be pissed, female and male alike, were able to see my dick while I pissed. I believe that it is an invasion of privacy, and maybe even mild sexual assault. But unfortunately, there is nothing that I can do about it. Would cranberry juice work better than plain water to detox my system? |
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Mr.C
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| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| cranberry juice only helps fight or prevent kidney infections,,you can drink it if you prefer but i myself would stick with water creatine and a cheap multivitamins you can get at any convenient store. |
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