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travisgrn
Concerned Citizen
Joined: 14 Aug 2007
Posts: 3
Location: OHIO/KY/IN
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 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:06 am Post subject: I think I know how to beat the LEO's in the sky! |
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Barry- Thanks for the prompt reply on my earlier aerial detection question. Indoor growing is not feasible right now but what do you think of a greenhouse? Something next to my garden, small (8X6X8), lots of flowers and red herrings nearby, and covered with a non transparent ultra-violet-resistant polythene? It would not look out of place at all as we make improvements around our house every year.
The only way LEOs could detect what is in it is by using binoculars as I am hundreds of feet off the road, or coming onto the property and looking in the greenhouse. Either way, they will not satisfy plain sight requirements and the mere presence of a greenhouse is not enough to obtain a warrant right?
I guess the only questions left are:
Can they see through the cover with FLIR? And if so, does that constitute illegal search?
Can I grow adequate plants under ultra-violet-resistant polythene?
Very technical post I know. Thanks to anyone who can answer any of these questions or who gives any advice on the greenhouse idea.
Travis, the compassionate grower. |
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CannaBliss
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Joined: 21 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:30 am Post subject: |
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When the pigs grow wings and take flight, they are usually after spoting outdoor plants with their high tech heat signature dectecting what ever its called.
When you plant cannabis, it gives off a different heat signature than the surrounding plants, and there also a noticable signature disturbance in the ground around the plant that indicated someone tore it up to plant a seed.
I hear they can also see the exhaust of your indoor grow from the air, but thats about it. They cannot see into your house, because the roof of your house is MUCH hotter than the rest of your house, thus creating a thermanl blanket because heat rises. |
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Vendico
Antiprohibitionist
Joined: 19 Jun 2007
Posts: 93
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| CannaBliss wrote: | | They cannot see into your house, because the roof of your house is MUCH hotter than the rest of your house, thus creating a thermanl blanket because heat rises. |
Therefore, build a mini barn with a roof and plant in that? |
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Barry
CEO/NeverGetBusted.Com
Joined: 03 Apr 2007
Posts: 640
Location: Texas
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | When the pigs grow wings and take flight, they are usually after spoting outdoor plants with their high tech heat signature dectecting what ever its called. |
It is called FLIR (Forward Looking Infared)
| Quote: | | When you plant cannabis, it gives off a different heat signature than the surrounding plants, and there also a noticable signature disturbance in the ground around the plant that indicated someone tore it up to plant a seed. |
This is a myth. FLIR cannot tell one plant from another. I have heard this rumor over and over but it is just a rumor. Cops in the air spot marijuana fields by looking for rows planted, water lines and dead trees. Last week Candi and I took a news team in a helicopter, spotted a pot field and I then crept the news crew in for a story. We then snuck my camera crew in to get footage for NEVERGETRAIDED where I teach how to grow plants invisible from law enforcement.
| Quote: | | I hear they can also see the exhaust of your indoor grow from the air, but thats about it. They cannot see into your house, |
This is exactly what FLIR does. It is used to fly over and take heat images of your home or barn looking for heat from grow lights pumping out of your grow room. To counter this, use fluorescents and LED's to grow safely. FLIR cannot "see" through anything.
| Quote: | | Can they see through the cover with FLIR? And if so, does that constitute illegal search? |
They can only see heat. If it is hot, it can be seen, if it is not, it cannot be seen. Having only thermal images of heat that fit a "grow room profile" is not enough evidence alone for a search warrant. Thermal images are included with evidence of high electric bills, postage records of purchased grow equipment etc to obtain a search warrant.
| Quote: | | Can I grow adequate plants under ultra-violet-resistant polythene? |
Adequate cannabis plants will grow anywhere as long as they have the proper amount of nutrients, lighting and water.
| Quote: | | The only way LEOs could detect what is in it is by using binoculars as I am hundreds of feet off the road, or coming onto the property and looking in the greenhouse. Either way, they will not satisfy plain sight requirements and the mere presence of a greenhouse is not enough to obtain a warrant right? |
You are correct!
Barry |
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