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Mr.C
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 Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: old friends |
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so your walking in the mall,,,you see an old friend you havent seen since highschool but he knows you used to smoke pot and you even sold pot back in the day.
so while in the mall you talk about hooking up later ,,your friend casually asks if you could hook him up knowing you could before.
you say yes and your friend shows up later at your house with a person you have never met.
while inside the house the person you never met gets a phone call and exscuses himself,,comes back in one min later,,some time passes and after visiting and chatting you agree to go get your OLD buddy a QP and exchange phone numbers,,you tell your friend youll call him after you get it and he can come back over.
What just happen and how can you fix the situation?
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this is working off the thought expressed in Barrys DVD,,not to do anything with people you havent seen in a while or really dont even know that well.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: |
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I like your idea and scenario here!
First off, the second person must be eliminated from the encounter. It seems he is directing the transaction and I would suspect him of being undercover with the friend as his CI.(Could be anyway) You happen to be a target of opportunity. (happened to me)
You should have smoked with everyone first off. (no guarantee though)Neutral location preferred.
The amount was too much to ask for a casual acquaintance from the past. A small sack should be agreed upon. Shouldnt sell till at least one smoking encounter to "feel" the person out. |
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Mr.C
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| socrateez wrote: | I like your idea and scenario here!
First off, the second person must be eliminated from the encounter. It seems he is directing the transaction and I would suspect him of being undercover with the friend as his CI.(Could be anyway) You happen to be a target of opportunity. (happened to me)
You should have smoked with everyone first off. (no guarantee though)Neutral location preferred.
The amount was too much to ask for a casual acquaintance from the past. A small sack should be agreed upon. Shouldnt sell till at least one smoking encounter to "feel" the person out. |
very nice
you hit it right on my friend,,second person is an undercover working with old friend who is CI. you were a target of opportunity in the scenario mentioned above ,,so they spend their day "fishing" hence seeing you in the mall.
good call on the QP...a small bag if any at all,,,smoke first.
but what did the undercover do when he left with the call for litterally one minute?
Awesome call on the target of opportunity |
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socrateez
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: |
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I'll let someone else stab at that.  |
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Mr.C
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| so if your old pal and his buddy was fishing what are they looking for,,,what will they do with their knowledge gained? |
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socrateez
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| The undercover is fishing for any case he can exploit into more and or larger busts. The CI is most likely trying to work time off his sentence for something else. He has probably exhausted his local social network and is now fishing for past acquaintances in the hopes of accessing a new social network. Professional snitch he is. They mine social networks like gold. |
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Mr.C
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| socrateez wrote: | | The undercover is fishing for any case he can exploit into more and or larger busts. The CI is most likely trying to work time off his sentence for something else. He has probably exhausted his local social network and is now fishing for past acquaintances in the hopes of accessing a new social network. Professional snitch he is. They mine social networks like gold. |
i like how you think,,life experiences show in your answers 
when the undercover left for one min he positioned a GPS unit on your vehicle. could be the type that just stores data,,or could even be the live turn by turn
the request for a QP means whoever you go get it from is moving good weight,,,meaning your not just going to a friends house to get a small amount,,theres volume there
doesnt bother them to leave or seperate because they know they will eventually find out where you went,,,leading to surveillance,,,possible warrants and an eventual bust,,,the dealer can get busted but will have a very hard time finding out how.
now how to remedy the situation? aside from flat out refusing to get anything for them,,,what COULD BE DONE? |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| i think it is your duty to do what you can to protect your dealer in a respectfull way,,,you should do your part in helping make sure HE doesnt get busted as well,,you know all working together here |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| Oh yeah, the undercover is paying the CI petty cash every time he produces information on persons of suspicion. Larger amounts if solid case material is being produced. |
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Mr.C
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:58 am Post subject: |
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remedies?
as already mentioned just do small amounts
if you DO AGREE to get the QP,,always drive a while and make sure your not being followed,,,then if at all possible,,switch vehicles or have the person meet in a parking lot,,really shouldnt go to house to purchase QP amount.
anything else that could be done?
prob smartest to deffinately not agree to a QP amount
if you cannot switch vehicles i wouldnt do a large amount
stay VERY aware of social interactions and understand what is happening when it is happening |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: |
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GPS can be put on your vehicle right in fronnt of you,,,using misdirection and causing you to turn your back for a moment is all it takes...
you know and really im not sure the amount purchased really matters.
ALWAYS stay aware of your social surroundings and what is happening at every moment
thieves can just as easily AND DO use these same techniques to find an individuals routine before robbing their house and if the GPS is live turn by turn they dont even have to worry if your gonna accidentally show up at home while their robbing you
sick world my friends,,,,sick world
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socrateez
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Or if he introduces people to you.
Most successful dealers maintain strict control over their immediate buyers who distribute user amounts. They would rather sell you more for less than be introduced to a new person, which if clean, doesnt really increase profit much but does add risky additional traffic that you would absorb the risk on.
People should feel someone out over repeated encounters before selling to them. This allows you time to spot problems. |
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socrateez
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:18 am Post subject: |
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The technology to spy is awesome.
The mere presence of a phone or music player can record an entire room.
My sansa with rockbox installed has superb control over the mic and record settings. You can use the thing like a fucking bug if you wanted.
I know of methods used to conduct business through electronic means other than phone.
When the undercover left the room, he could have done so to excuse himself from witnessing illegal substance use by you and the CI. Thereby allowing the CI to gain your trust.
NUMBER ONE don't bring anyone to the house if they do not smoke!!! |
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Mr.C
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| socrateez wrote: | The technology to spy is awesome.
The mere presence of a phone or music player can record an entire room.
My sansa with rockbox installed has superb control over the mic and record settings. You can use the thing like a fucking bug if you wanted.
I know of methods used to conduct business through electronic means other than phone.
When the undercover left the room, he could have done so to excuse himself from witnessing illegal substance use by you and the CI. Thereby allowing the CI to gain your trust.
NUMBER ONE don't bring anyone to the house if they do not smoke!!! |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr.C wrote: | remedies?
as already mentioned just do small amounts
if you DO AGREE to get the QP,,always drive a while and make sure your not being followed,,,then if at all possible,,switch vehicles or have the person meet in a parking lot,,really shouldnt go to house to purchase QP amount.
anything else that could be done?
prob smartest to deffinately not agree to a QP amount
if you cannot switch vehicles i wouldnt do a large amount
stay VERY aware of social interactions and understand what is happening when it is happening |
The only thing wrong with this is in a parking lot it is much easier to get a video of you so the C.I does not have to go to court.
If anything stay at your house. Also in this case more than likely you get to keep your car. If they bust you selling out of your car it is usually there's after. |
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