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Iconspired2 Concerned Citizen
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:58 am Post subject: United We Stand....Divided We Fall |
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I apologize for not being more active on the site since joining due to pressing life issue that have arose over the past year. Yesterday however I was able to take some time and read a few posts along with comments from other members. Unfortunately some of those responses were very stereotypical responses I would have expected to read from the majority of the people fighting this so called War on Drugs. With comments like:
1. I think its obvious to any idiot your a drug dealer.
Now first of all should I in return type: Well I think it’s obvious to any idiot that you don’t seem to know the difference between “its and it’s”? Or ask, do your really think that or do you believe that to be true? I rather believe that anyone in an ongoing legal battle would be more apt to being considered an idiot if they actually put in writing that they were guilty for a drug crime.
2. Be very cooperative with those prosecuting you, tell them where you got the meth, or who's meth it really was and help them find those dealers. Meth is a deadly and highly addictive substance, derived from an extremely non-natural process and anyone messing around with it is truly selling death.
Get the hell out of dodge.
Meth is serious, it kills a lot of people and ruins their bodily function. I would seriously reconsider my friends knowing they are doing that sort of thing.
On this comment I can’t determine if the person I telling the other to go ahead and rat someone else out for something they chose to do on their own free will or just for the fact that methamphetamine isn’t cultivated. This one gets me due to the drug schedules currently in place directly related to State and Federal Sentencing Guidelines and mandatory minimums. Mood modification is mood modification whether it be from beer, marijuana, methamphetamine, cocaine, mushrooms, LSD, MDMA, GHB. If not out of habit or addiction wouldn’t you agree they are all done for the purpose of getting HIGH? Outside of medicinal uses that is. Why should my 39 grams of methamphetamine cost me 57 months of freedom when the same amount of pot been a slap on the wrist basically? God forbid it had been 39 grams of crack cocaine in 1999 with the sentencing guidelines the way they were with crack cocaine compared to powder cocaine or other drugs. Here is the kicker to the crack saga. Lets just say I have an ounce of powder cocaine and I slipped, fell, and dropped the powder cocaine that just so happens to fall into a bucket of clear ammonia and gets stirred around a few times. Abracadabra!! Instant crack and sentenced at least double the amount of prison time!!
Now for the “Get the hell out of dodge” statement. Rationally, where’s this person to go? What kind of life do you believe they will be able to live if they run from this?
Methamphetamine is serious and has adverse effects on the body but people chose to do it and its part of the Drug War as a whole, a felony for possession of a baggie with residue that takes our right as a tax paying citizen away from us to bare arms, vote, and find decent housing, jobs and benefits. I believe many laws dealing with drugs have been put in place to create this unorganized mess we have right now that turns family member against family member, friend against friend. You want a plea deal, less time? Sure they will give you that, for the names of maybe your brother you got the dope from, a childhood friend, someone you don’t even know but heard their name amongst other users. They seem to have most of society convinced even recreational drug uses should be outcast. Offer funding or tax breaks to drug free work environments which if rather than random testing of employees but rather a full company screening would reveal there is in fact no drug free workplace. I at one time even had a new article where White House employees were tested and am almost certain at least 12 failed with positive results ranging from marijuana to cocaine in their systems.
Guess what I’m getting at is that I’m here to fight for your right to put marijuana in your body so please don’t deny another non violent user the right to put what they want in their body.
3. I believe that methamphetamine is dangerously addictive. I have done some experimenting with drugs in my time and I can say that meth/cocaine are evil substances with horrific come-downs. I have no problem with your being prosecuted. What do you expect the cops to let you go just because you say its not yours?
News flash!!! I believe that cigarettes and alcohol are dangerously addictive as well but you don’t see people getting locked up for 10 years for carrying around 50 grams of tobacco do you? Seems you’re not the only one who has done some testing and experimenting with drugs in your time. I believe the Government has done some testing of it’s own on marijuana and where has that gotten it?
This is my view and if you’ve read this far I can at least say that you are somewhat open-minded. In life we live in or under certain conditions that affect our thoughts in different ways. We make choices that inevitably have consequences. Make no mistake in knowing that I have done the crime and done my time. The issue is, even after you get that paper saying you’ve completely and successfully completed your sentence that in some way, shape, or form, with the way things are now, and without change, your sentence is not over. This so called War on Drugs cannot be won by them. Over 30 years worth of effort, blood, sweat, and tax dollars have not ended it. I’ve known and still know many users of illegal drugs and cannot even name 5 that own a firearm much less want a war but would rather the FREEDOM OF CHOICE to chose what the can and can’t put into their own body. When on a regular basis, legal drugs, manufactured by pharmaceutical companies, approved by the FDA, prescribed by doctor’s for the purpose of saving or prolonging life are pulled off the market for doing just the opposite and killing people. The only difference here is that they don’t call it an overdose in my opinion.
If you are still reading and even care to who I am and what my life has been, feel free to watch my video on you tube.
Iconspired2008
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trox9999 Antiprohibitionist
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Good post although I disagree on one point I like the way it was put together and think your real for putting a face to the name.
My view is that if drugs including nicotine are known to kill,steal or destroy human life, then they should be prevented from human consumption, Marijuana does not do this and that is why I think it should be legal and not prohibited.
Ask yourself this question. Did you wake up one day and say I think i'm going to be a meth addict today. or do children wake up and say i'm going to be a coke addict when I grow up.
Do people one day chose to say i'm going to be addicted to ciggarettes for the rest of my life.
No of course not, they do however make a choice to experiment and after that point, truly it is no longer them talking it's their addiction looking to defend itself in any way possible. Marijuana again is not very addictive in its physical composition and characteristics.
That is why I think because no one wakes up and decides literally to become an addict on life taking drugs, I think that if society has more life experience and knows what these drugs can do like a parent those drugs shouldn't be out there it's not natural.
I know though that the government is corrupt clearly simply look at the Cannabis and nicotine dilema. which one should be illegal we all know. So I don't think they should be the ones regulating it necessarily.
Because I actually think the Government is responsible for alot of the cocaine and crack out there.Drug Enforcement ya right! to enforce the drugs. My random Crazy thought that I have no backing of but just my thought is that the people at the very top formed the DEA to keep other dealers off the streets so they can enforce their drugs and have a monopoly, take the money and resell the drugs, Do you think this thought is too far-fetched? dunno |
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trox9999 Antiprohibitionist
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh and I love D.E.A= Deceiving Every American |
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Mr.C Moderator
Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 786
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| nice video man |
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Iconspired2 Concerned Citizen
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:20 am Post subject: Thanks |
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| Thank you Mr. C |
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Iconspired2 Concerned Citizen
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:22 am Post subject: Thanks Trox9999 |
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Thanks for the thoughts on my post. I can surely agree from my own addictions and addiction to cocaine in the late 80's that I never decided one day to become addicted. The funny thing with marijuana which I agree to be the least harmful is the fact of how long it remains in the system. I'm cannot speak for anyone but myself here but conditions at around age 17 and my parents surprise drug screenings along with natural curiosity played a factor in my trying different drugs.
My opinion here but as you stated that people just don't wake one day and decide they want to become and addict I believe that violent people are wired somehow different and whether they commit a violent act while using, such as shooting another human they could do the same sober. On the other hand there are people that 3 sheets to the wind high don't have it in them to carry out such acts of violence.
I believe many factors would change were drugs made legal. I do not know how much money would go into growing a sweet hydro plant but do know that in 1999 for under 40 dollars worth of pseudo ephedrine, 40 dollars worth of iodine crystals, and 20 dollars in red phosphorus (reagent grade) and ounce of methamphetamine could be produced. Where as the same 28 grams with most likely 14 grams being cut would street value in Florida is between $1400.00 to $2000.00 as compared to the $200.00 max in producing 28 grams of pure methamphetamine. Addicts of one thing or another I believe there will always be.
My pain comes from the empathy I now have for others in knowing what they and their family's will endure should they become a part of this country's legal system. A system that and country that continue to move at such a pace that for the most part with 1 in every 100 now in jail or prison our voices to me anyway fall on deaf ears.
I would very much one day like to feel safe enough to be able to actually smoke a joint or hit a bong again without the worry of losing a job or suffering legal consequences.
As to your theory on the government being drug dealers or keeping dealers where they want them? To me it's rather obvious when you can watch COPS and see them selling crack to users then turn around and arrest them or initiate a crime by making the funds available for the purchase of drugs that could not be obtained with those funds that they know exactly what they are doing and wouldn't doubt if many themselves had not used drugs or at least tried them at one point in their lives. As cold as them may seem even to me lets face it. They are only human. What I call my advantage over them is simply that I've lived on both sides of the barbed wire fence and realize the only way I can truly make a difference is to pretty much remain on the outside of that fence.
Hell, I didn't mean to be so long winded in this post and actually had a run in with 4 officers on Monday. I'll have to work on that post hopefully tomorrow. |
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Bongzilla Stoned On The Mountain
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 246 Location: Mountains in E Oregon
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:38 am Post subject: |
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Icon, I totally agree with you as to the situation of the DEA, and the BS to lock up good people with alleged threats to our society. If coke was your wrap, and you see the light on how pot is treated, I really don't see any mention of your conviction, (not that it's our business). But the way that our government approaches all drugs is awful. There are some drugs that are sanctioned by the feds through tradition, or lobbyists. Others totally unsanctioned, are banned to the point any user is automatically a criminal, without committing any property or person crime. If caught with a user amount of an addictive substance, treatment is at best an afterthought. While incarceration and eradication have long since been proven ineffective.
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trox9999 Antiprohibitionist
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm looking forward to reading your post Iconspired2! |
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