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AmericanMan03
Concerned Citizen
Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Posts: 2
Location: Earth Currently
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 Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: Am I a bad person to resorting to surviving? |
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I use to and still do question myself almost everyday what I am doing. As we all know Michigan's economic situation is the worse in the country. I just got over my teen years, and my job was to bring the pleasure. As it has been many years, I question my self why does the government want to lock me up for years, for providing a way for my friends to get smoke, and get it safely without getting ripped off. So day to day, back when I did provide I was always getting paranoid, and scared all the time for what bringing a herb to my friends to indulge? I have had to live on the outside. Once my hockey friends parents found out they did not like me, and it was hard for me to which it should have never have. Teachers liked me but highly disagreed with what I did, They all knew I smoked but if I talked about drinking it was alright.
I took a long break( Heat from Uncle Sam),and got a job. Now I am going to college(Which Herb paid for). I recently got laid off of my new job for economic slow down. I could start again and I could be a highly successful business man like I was, or I could let the system win, and be a jobless smuck. The questions that keep me from doing what I felt natural at is...
Is it Immoral to sell your friends a Herb, that is illegal?
Would God be angry at me for what I was doing?
It paid for my future, and it could have also ended my future from the government. I could have lived a life of joy doing what I was doing. Now I am a Computer System student with a future that doesn't look hopeful for when I graduate from college the economy is dreadful here.(I need a computer job any one out there)
Why am I a casted as a menace?, when I am a good person that follows all the other laws, but find this one unreasonable. Am I a menace to society? I was told by my close friends who, I experimented with they wouldn't try anything without consulting me first, so they got the facts and what would expect, and what not to do.
I told my self its just a herb. It wasn't like I was selling to kids on the playground, or getting 30 Lbs and flooding the market. I justified it by thinking its natural. God put it on the earth for a reason. It is not cooked down and purified like real harmful substances exp meth.
I watched the Dvd, and I totally agree with it. It moved me past the paranoid part. I will smoke without worrying about the big bad police telling me how to live. Only one that matters is my creator do you guys think he condones it? If people can grow wine grapes and have wine cellars, Why cant people have herb gardens. I am sorry if I went on but when I did work with herb I couldn't express these thoughts with any one. If I did get caught with anything above a QP I would get 1-4 years in jail. I don't belong in prison and, if I did goto prison it would change me... for the worse. I am an intelligent young man that has never hurt a living soul.
(I condoned all hard drugs like cocaine, heroin, etc and would be pissed at my friends, if they used them or even thought about it.) ( I have stopped messing with the herb it is not worth my freedom sadly. )  !Smoke on, Smoke Strong!  |
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dawsonspaw
Pink Floydian slip
Joined: 11 Apr 2007
Posts: 344
Location: Somewhere in the temporal space inside my mind
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| My personal OPINION is that a plant so useful to mankind,for medical,and all the plethora of uses for it,was put on this place we call home for a purpose,and I don't think it is wrong to supply something he meant for us to have........although I don't think he meant for us to smoke it,although I do |
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Brute4291
Mod-er-rater?
Joined: 01 Dec 2007
Posts: 621
Location: Zion
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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"Man made beer God made pot, who do you trust?" lol
i think in 2 kings in the bible not sure what verse but it says something like "And i give you all the green plants"
I am in much the same disposition as you, but luckily i was able to hide what i do for the most part. Friends families dont have a clue, but my teachers probably do.
couple years ago in high school it was the first week of school, me and some friends decided to go get baked before class so we went. The teacher noticed the smell and gave me odd looks all the time but once she saw that i tried hard to make A's she actually helped me much, maybe cause she thinks i need it or maybe cause i was one of the better students. This happened to a few other teachers i had over the years too.
If you continue to sell and go to school the courts might have sympathy if you get busted because your using the money to go to school.
As for everyone else if they see you sucessful in life and have good attitude they might change there minds about you. Altough people say its bad in more ways than one its alot safer than alcohol. I did some research on alcohol, after reading all that can happen to you i stop drinking at parties even. |
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AmericanMan03
Concerned Citizen
Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Posts: 2
Location: Earth Currently
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Well I have stopped doing that. High school is over, and I don't see those friends anymore so it is much different. If i saw one of the parents now I wouldn't care but growing up it was different. Like I said I did it before to get money for college, now I am in school and don't have time but still smoke!
**** I cant stress how important school is !~!**** |
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Vendico
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Joined: 19 Jun 2007
Posts: 93
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| Promote Ron Paul. If he wins, you'll win. |
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DrugWarVeteran
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Joined: 15 Jan 2008
Posts: 25
Location: camouflaged in a suit and tie
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Drug dealers are not bad people for supplying drugs any more than drug consumers are bad people for wanting and purchasing drugs.
Its a mutually amicable exchange and there is absolutely nothing morally wrong with it.
Its sad that there is such a huge social stigma on the simple act of buying and selling a particular commodity that people actually feel guilty just for supplying an economic demand.
So, to answer your question, NO. It is not wrong to sell pot, any more than it is wrong to sell apples, t-shirts, or vacuum cleaners.
It is wrong for the government to deny the individual his right to consume, possess, sell, or buy whatever he chooses. Just because they have guns and badges does not make them right. YOU ARE RIGHT.
Ask yourself this: Why would God be mad at you for distributing a plant GOD CREATED? If anything, it seems to me God might have an issue with police using force against innocent people, in order to stop them from consuming and distributing a plant that was put on this planet for a PURPOSE.
The drug war is communist, fascist, sacreligious, and a genocide against God's creation. I seriously doubt God would have a problem with someone fighting the drug war on the side against the law. |
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Brute4291
Mod-er-rater?
Joined: 01 Dec 2007
Posts: 621
Location: Zion
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| The only way you might be doing somethingwrong isif you buy from gangs or the mexican cartels, the easy solution to that is just grow which i bet you do that. |
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progrocker
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Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Posts: 96
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God is imaginary, so as long as you don't think you are hurting anyone, and the people who you sell to don't think you are hurting them, you are all set.  |
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4change
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Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Posts: 16
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You know, my beloved cats catch mice, kill them - which they may even prolong this with untold glee, but at the mouse's expense. Then they usually eat them. I have never detected one puff of guilt from a cat for these activities, in fact they usually bring it in to show what a feat they accomplished. Good cat, mouse dead..
Is my cat BAD for killing a mouse? A lot of people probably think so. I have a "bad" neighbor who hates my big male cat because it sometimes beats up their smaller cat, so to them my cat is bad, but not to me. The mouse likely thinks so - his life is at stake so cats are nothing but fear and pain to them. It is all relative, the cat was just being a cat, following a primal instinct to live.
Some "Being", whether you call it God, Allah or maybe a vaporous ether, created man. Man also has a curious and creative brain, which along the way our tribal ancestors discovered many plants including the one that has brought us all together in this profoundly amazing community today, for a variety of reasons, all valid imo. Most of us here - I would venture - believe this plant has merit(s), moi too. Just because man has declared some things "illegal", doesn't make it "right". I break the law nearly everyday, usually exceeding the 55mph speed limit - and I do NOT feel one bit of guilt, even though I may occasionally pay a little annoying fee for doing so.
BUT, with "this" topic, an infraction brings down a VERY heavy hammer indeed; too heavy for most of us to morally accept, BUT this opinion needs to meet and actually exceed the level of heavihandedness in power. We can most effectively do this with the pen, or typing, maybe speaking if that is your gift, but whatever it is, employ your tool of choice to bring sanity to this topic. Google and/or YouTube the name "
Sanho Tree", a guy who has written and spoken well and is in a place of influence, just not the critical mass yet needed in this country to overcome the "Man". We need to become educated, smart, and take well-directed actions rather than just bitch and moan. WE THE PEOPLE... It takes courage to stand up against the status quo, but isn't it worth it; isn't it time? |
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socrateez
Stoned Philosopher
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
Posts: 1226
Location: I'm the person to your right.
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Well Written! |
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OnTheBorder
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Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 42
Location: Inside the checkpoints, along the Rio Grande
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| 4Change, do you moonlight as a motivationl speaker? If not you should consider it. |
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tophylee
Concerned Citizen
Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Posts: 7
Location: Alabama
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It's not against God to enjoy weed. The only way I can find it is against God is to smoke it. (Your body is the temple, and you shouldn't harm it.) or something like that...but eating it doesn't harm you... 
"I'm not saying weed causes cancer or anything, just that smoke in your lungs can't be good for you."--Firefighter |
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hamline01
Antiprohibitionist
Joined: 11 Aug 2008
Posts: 59
Location: St. Paul, Mn
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See, I read things like this, and I just sit here questioning how on earth we can live in the "worlds greatest democracy" and have such a fascist government on this issue.
I am obviously not anti-America, I am anti-how it is being run right now and for quite a few past years.
How on earth can someone in Washington sit in their chair and tell me what I can and cant do with my body.
And when this is suppose to be a democracy, why then when the majority of the people favor legalization, why would the elected officials not comply, even argue that we don't understand a plant that many of us enjoy and know a great deal about?
Ok, wonderful thread, it got my blood boiling (can you tell)?
We need a good old fashioned revolution! 
I may or may not be high, so this post might make no sense at all! hehe |
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Dr. Dope
Civil Libertarian
Joined: 29 Jul 2008
Posts: 185
Location: Canada
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"Man made beer God made pot"
God also put an apple tree on earth and told adam and eve not to eat from it |
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Audio
Antiprohibitionist
Joined: 26 Aug 2008
Posts: 80
Location: Da 'Ville, TX
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| Another thing to remember is that morality is subject to the individuals own beliefs as to what is right or wrong. If you feel guilty for doing something, then you have to look at your reasons why. Is it the propaganda that has been put out by the government and religious groups? I think that this has the biggest influence on most americans, although as hamline01 said, the majority of americans agree with the decriminalization of cannabis. Think of Barry's story and how he listened to the officers he looked up to and bought the lies that they believed so well, they could talk almost anyone into believing the same. One has to stop and look at things and determine his or her own beliefs. If you think that what you are doing is wrong, then you will always feel guilty. As for marijuana use, one has to realize that the benefits outweigh any cons that can be thought of. This has been proven numerous time in scientific studies and health studies. Most arguments as to the dangers of marijuana use are either fallacies or just completely false. Once you realize that, you will be free. |
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