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mjphoto45
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Joined: 24 Aug 2007
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 Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:40 am Post subject: Here we go! |
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| First of all... a lot is spelled this way NOT alot. (That is for Barry's own knowledge). After seeing this I wonder about Barry's expertise but here we go. I am a Juvenile Probation Officer and see daily kids who admit to smoking weed. I spent the first year as a Drug Technician and have seen it all! I think it is funny the ways people try to conceal their drug use. Everyone in LE and Corrections know the ways to try to cheat the system. I read daily articles and sites such as this one. #1 if you are on probation, stay off of drugs and alcohol. It is a court order and I constantly see people who think they are above the law and continue to do what they want to do. Learning how to conceal any type of drugs makes me wonder about society today. With all of the sex, drugs and violence as seen on TV, movies and newspapers, it is no wonder why are children turn out the way they do. Almost all of my clints have a really bad family home life. WHY don't parents stand up and do what is right for the children? Parents are out doing drugs and alcohol, they are most of the time divorced and the kids end up suffering. If you decide to have children, please keep them the #1 priority! I am getting ideas from this site on how to catch the kids who don't tell the truth. As Probation Officers, we all know the youth lie! I am disappointed that this site can't do better things than to teach others how to cheat the system. Good luck making money on teaching others how to cheat. I hope you sleep well at night Barry! |
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Buck
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Joined: 24 Apr 2007
Posts: 68
Location: Southern US
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Kids will be kids, some you can reach and some you can't. This site doesn't teach anything you can't find on 1000's of other sites. Plus I really don't see that many kids here trying to cheat the system. Kids and drug use falls back on the parents not society.
The system is the one screwing us that are adults and choose to use MJ.
It is our right to fight back and buck the system. This site is not about children and drugs it's about reform, legalization and our constitutional rights being violated. |
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Barry
CEO/NeverGetBusted.Com
Joined: 03 Apr 2007
Posts: 595
Location: Texas
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | First of all... a lot is spelled this way NOT alot. (That is for Barry's own knowledge). After seeing this I wonder about Barry's expertise but here we go. |
I knew this already but write thousands of words a day and am human enough to make many mistakes. If spelling a word wrong causes you to question my expertise than I wonder about your probation expertise after reading your post: | Quote: | | Almost all of my clints have a really bad family |
Clints is spelled clients.
| Quote: | | Everyone in LE and Corrections know the ways to try to cheat the system |
Not true. While this may be true for narc cops, this is not true for the majority of police.
| Quote: | | It is a court order |
You act like a court order makes it right. Our courts remind me of a bunch of high school kids running for student body president. The conscience of the community is saying: "We don't respect the courts."
| Quote: | | Learning how to conceal any type of drugs makes me wonder about society today. |
I can tell by this statement you probably consider marijuana a danger. Do your homework.
| Quote: | | With all of the sex, drugs and violence as seen on TV, movies and newspapers, it is no wonder why are children turn out the way they do. |
I have four children. All strait "A" and popular. TV, drugs, guns, sex and whatever else you want to throw into this pile does not cause kids to be bad. Bad parenting causes kids to be bad. In our home, we value courage, kindness, bravery, honor, love and respect. Teaching good character qualities to our children is a must!!! It is unfortunate parents and probation officers spend massive amounts of energy teaching, don't drink, don't cuss, don't smoke, don't have sex. Teach good character qualities instead! It worked for me.
| Quote: | | As Probation Officers, we all know the youth lie! |
You sound bitter and judgmental. You have no business dealing with our youth. Please find a job you are more qualified to have.
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OnTheBorder
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Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 42
Location: Inside the checkpoints, along the Rio Grande
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Probation and Parole Officers are an important part of the Judicial System. It's a thankless, difficult, and necessary job.
It must be frustrating as well. My guess is that you have a lot of offenders in your charge that will just never straighten up and fly right.
You didn't indicate where you are from, so I can only guess at what your caseload might be, but it's probably more than you can keep close tabs on.
As an officer of the court you have to take what they give you and make the best of it. But imagine for a moment, if you will, how much easier your job would be, and how much more manageable your caseload would be, if you didn't have to babysit people that were busted for simply smoking or possessing marijhuana.
With all that extra time, you might actually be able to make a difference in the lives of some of your "real offenders". You know, the really bad ones that do pose a threat to society. |
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Barry
CEO/NeverGetBusted.Com
Joined: 03 Apr 2007
Posts: 595
Location: Texas
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Props to OnTheBorder.
Barry |
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OneManRevolution
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Joined: 08 Apr 2007
Posts: 88
Location: Carrollton, TX
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: Wow. |
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| On the Border, nicely said. |
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medirep
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Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 2
Location: USA
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Sorry mjphoto45 but I agree with Barry on the topic of "you dont know what your doing"
You have made the wrong career choice. If you need to come to a forum for understanding of what a liar is then that tells me that your instinctually inept, I believe that it takes one to know one. I'm 47 years old and I have been around long enough to see quite a lot of transparant people, and I also see that you are in the wrong job.
This is the reason why this country is so screwed up, you take these jobs for political reasons and your treading in water that you never been in before. You all should be fired for ineptness and all of your jobs restaffed with recovering alcoholics and or drug addicts.
But reality tells me that you all will go on not sure of yourself and always second guessing because you havent walked in their shoes.
Have a nice life chief. |
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mjphoto45
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Joined: 24 Aug 2007
Posts: 6
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: great job! |
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| Straight isn't spelled strait. Keep smoking Barry! |
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mjphoto45
Concerned Citizen
Joined: 24 Aug 2007
Posts: 6
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:40 am Post subject: thanks |
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| Thank you for your support of today's youth. I am glad you all think I am in the wrong job. Let's decriminalize crack and meth while we are at it. What about SalVia? I believe alcohol is worse than weed but why are people always trying to beat the system Keep smoking your weed. It destroys brain cells and effects your lungs. If you don't want to live as long as others who don't smoke go right ahead. The system has a lot more addicts in jail because of meth and crack than marijuana. Barry is out for a quick buck. Please ask why Barry has been arrested 5 times himself. Didn't he read his own book "Never Get Busted"? I think it is funny people are even looking at this site. Barry, try to explain yourself out of 5 arrests. I didn't think so! |
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OnTheBorder
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Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 42
Location: Inside the checkpoints, along the Rio Grande
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| Quote: | | I am glad you all think I am in the wrong job. |
I didn't say that. I was, if anything, exibiting empathy for your job.
In reading your subsequent posts, though, I will concede that you are probably at least teetering on the edge of burnout. Again, think how much easier your job would be if not for weed smokers and their support network clogging up your case files.
As easier goes, I'll admit it's not exactly a month in the Caribbean, but it's not too shabby an idea, if you ask me.
| Quote: | | Let's decriminalize crack and meth while we are at it. |
No, let's not.
While there may be a few here that would advocate this, it's a bad idea. (I realize you were being sarcastic, by the way)
Both are highly addictive, and in the case of meth manufacture, highly dangerous to anyone in the immediate area or downwind. There are a lot of very highly toxic compounds used to make that poison. As a former firefighter, I'm well schooled in all of them, and their effects, and I don't want anyone making that crap within a mile of me.
| Quote: | | I believe alcohol is worse than weed but why are people always trying to beat the system |
Because the system is broken. Ever since William Randolph Hearst and Harry Emslinger (sp?) started feeding lies to the citzenry back in the beginning of the last century.
But the lies are slowly being realized for what they were and individual states are slowly beginning to lessen penalties for weed possession. Hell, even one of the states that led the charge to outlaw weed, my home of Texas, has recently downgraded possession of small amounts.
Our country was founded on several famous displays of "Civil Disobedience", from the Boston Tea Party to the declaration of Independance, to the Revolution itself. When the populace sees a law or restriction to be too restrictive, it is OBLIGATED to disobey. That is the beauty of self-governance.
| Quote: | | It destroys brain cells and effects your lungs. |
It may affect my lungs, but then so does the pack of cigarettes I manage to suck back every day. They're my lungs and none of your business, sir.
And as far as my brain cells are concerned, well I'll let you be the judge by my posts alone. I seem to be able to convey thoughts and exhibit rational thought pretty well. Not bad for a 52 year old that has been smoking since the '70's.
Next argument please...... |
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mjphoto45
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Joined: 24 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: next argument please... |
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| Teetering on the edge of burnout? I was a drug tech for a year and now a Juv PO for three months. Nice try Barry. By the way, were you busted for marijuana 5 times? Thanks for giving us the techniques to use so we can bust our clients! Keep on smokin'! Here comes number 6. |
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douchefun
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Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Posts: 78
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: thanks |
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| mjphoto45 wrote: | | Barry is out for a quick buck. |
If he can get a little money out of what he's devoting all of his time into, WHY NOT?!! HE HAS A FAMILY! |
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OnTheBorder
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Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 42
Location: Inside the checkpoints, along the Rio Grande
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I'm not Barry, nor did I play him on TV.
If, as you say, you've only been a PO for a short time, and you aren't nearing burnout, then there must be some other reason for you to be so cynical. Care to share?
As for Barry getting arrested, well, that really doesn't matter much to me. Everyone makes mistakes, it's the severity of those mistakes and the willingness of one to learn from them that matters.
Making a buck? Hey, that's why you go to work every day, isn't it? I'll lay odds that if you hit the lottery tomorrow, you'd be calling yourself a "former probation/parole officer" as soon as you collected your winnings.
We live in a capitalist society and Barry has found a way to make that work for him. If he were inventing the next widget or pioneering some medical breakthrough, he would be lauded as a hero. But instead he is giving common sense advice on how to avoid being arrested for something that shouldn't even be considered a crime.
I have never met Barry, nor have I bought his product (sorry, Barry, but I know many, many, cops and worked with them for over 30 years as a firefighter, so know all their tricks and how to protect myself) so I have no dog in this fight. I'm just trying to give you the view from the other side.
Before you condemn simple pot smokers I'd like to share a favorite statistic that I ran across several years ago. In a study of drug offenders incarcerated around the country it was discovered that of those addicted to Heroin, 90% started by smoking pot. But of those arrested for pot, less than 10% had even tried a "harder" substance. That's only 1 out of 10 pot smokers that "graduate" to other, more addictive and dangerous substances. Not bad odds when you look at it that way. |
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mjphoto45
Concerned Citizen
Joined: 24 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: thank you |
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onthe border
I just want to thank you for writing a polite understandable response without bashing me. If I hit the lottery I would quit any job in a heartbeat. I personally don't care what other people do with their own time but I do care for my family. I am hoping the schoolbus driver who drives my child to school, the person who fixes the brakes on my car and the doctor who attends to my child's needs aren't on any types of illegal drugs.
If I can get a system that will help you cheat your SAT score would you buy it? I guess I am mad at society today for all of those people who want to cheat their way through life. Let's help other students get scholarships by getting false high scores on their SAT's. According to all on this site it would be a great idea. I feel sorry for the this and the next generation of children. We could get into the debacles of war but that will be on another website. Have a great day! |
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OnTheBorder
Antiprohibitionist
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 42
Location: Inside the checkpoints, along the Rio Grande
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| Quote: | | I just want to thank you for writing a polite understandable response without bashing me. |
You're welcome. I treat others as I wish to be treated, that whole "Golden Rule" thing that so many seem to forget these days. The relative anonymity of the internet causes some to forget that they are dealing with other people and certain rules still apply. I strive to be above that.
| Quote: | | I personally don't care what other people do with their own time but I do care for my family. I am hoping the schoolbus driver who drives my child to school, the person who fixes the brakes on my car and the doctor who attends to my child's needs aren't on any types of illegal drugs. |
And that is to be expected. I would no more want someone who's stoned to show up for work than I would want someone who's drunk to. There is a time and a place for everything, and imbibing in any kind of mind altering substance has no place in the work place, no matter what one does for a living.
I rarely drink alcohol. I can't stand the taste of beer unless it is ice cold, and mixed drinks make me feel like 40 miles of bad road the next day, no matter if I have 2 or 10. So, instead I'll fire one up on occasion. Where Joe Sixpack might have a beer or 2 after a long day, I have a hit or 2. It acheives the same purpose, relaxation and winding down after a stressful day.
It frosts my cookies that I have to hide like a criminal to do it.
In a previous post I outed myself as a former firefighter. I was on the job for 32 years, the last 2 of which I was an Assistant Chief. I NEVER responded to a call when I was under the influence, and would have dealt very harshly with anyone else that did. |
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