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Lushh
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 Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: The perfect set up? |
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I have mad respect for the person who has this set up! |
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Lushh
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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This person managed a successful and maintainable indoor hydroponic sativa grow! I wonder how much the materials all cost! |
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Lushh
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Last one you have to see full size. Really sorry dial up people...... |
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High Man
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Yes this is a nice aeroponics closet grow. I wouldn't say perfect though. I would want to add a 400w MH lamp to go along with the HPS there. I may also want to add a UVb lamp but I have heard mixed things about the real need for it, and also, some UVb is produced by a MH bulb.
Usually the areoponics setup itself, the tubes, hoses, res, and pump, spray nozzles, etc, will run about $200, not including lights, fan, insulation, method of Co2 generation, perhaps a reverse osmosis (RO) device, nutrients, PPM and PH meters, carbon scrubber, security measures, ... The list goes on. |
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Lushh
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah dude it just sounds so awesome. Plus this one is behind a wall. You could cover it with a wall, and then a bookshelf |
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Joe
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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actually, not only is it far from perfect, but, not set up right in the first place....
1. They tried to set up to vent/cool the reflector/light, and then run that up to filter, which is a combination of mistakes, since a filter you pull through, not push through...
2. Fan pushing through probably not high enough cfm to start with,and filter top of cab, so filter loses efficiency with higher temps....and how reflector and fan set up...top of cab probably a little too hot....
He would have been better off redoing with cool tube...Adding another light as is would be counter productive and probably make it worse, since heat possibly a problem as is, and, didn't see any intake, so, no fresh air or enrichment to speak of that's obvious from pics.....
All above examples like so
A small hobby starter set up for someone, but, far from ideal....Plus if they scrogged it, might do a lot for yield....
Cab's not my specialty...usually nothing less than a 20-40k, but all stands...
I'd recommend study other smaller cab scroggers......some of those guys pulling decent gpw's from such small projects... |
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FZRaven
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Joe wrote: | actually, not only is it far from perfect, but, not set up right in the first place....
1. They tried to set up to vent/cool the reflector/light, and then run that up to filter, which is a combination of mistakes, since a filter you pull through, not push through...
2. Fan pushing through probably not high enough cfm to start with,and filter top of cab, so filter loses efficiency with higher temps....and how reflector and fan set up...top of cab probably a little too hot....
He would have been better off redoing with cool tube...Adding another light as is would be counter productive and probably make it worse, since heat possibly a problem as is, and, didn't see any intake, so, no fresh air or enrichment to speak of that's obvious from pics.....
All above examples like so
A small hobby starter set up for someone, but, far from ideal....Plus if they scrogged it, might do a lot for yield....
Cab's not my specialty...usually nothing less than a 20-40k, but all stands...
I'd recommend study other smaller cab scroggers......some of those guys pulling decent gpw's from such small projects... |
Yes personally I would run fresh air from outside the room through the light and right back out. If drawing air from outside and pushing through a sealed tube (you can buy them) you don't have to worry about smell. I'd run a 600W switchable ballast, that way you only need to change out bulbs. Use a whisper fan filter, cause if your in a cab you wanna keep your noise down. Vent out the top and intake in the bottom, so your not pulling hot air back in. Humidity has to be kept down as AC losses efficiency as the humidity goes up. I'd also have to use just a straight hydro setup, cause I could build one out of crap I have sitting around.
But I can't be slamming this person to much, they growing and I'm not. |
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Joe
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| FZRaven wrote: |
Yes personally I would run fresh air from outside the room through the light and right back out. If drawing air from outside and pushing through a sealed tube (you can buy them) you don't have to worry about smell. I'd run a 600W switchable ballast, that way you only need to change out bulbs. Use a whisper fan filter, cause if your in a cab you wanna keep your noise down. Vent out the top and intake in the bottom, so your not pulling hot air back in. Humidity has to be kept down as AC losses efficiency as the humidity goes up. I'd also have to use just a straight hydro setup, cause I could build one out of crap I have sitting around.
But I can't be slamming this person to much, they growing and I'm not. |
I didn't think anyone was slamming anyone...merely set up observations, and, actually, I initially looked and thought the same (cooled 6), but, pretty small space, so......touch and go whether it could handle 6....so....
Not mentioned also regarding the heat is rez and root temps....which if a 6 in there might get up there...... |
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von
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Lushh, i bet it gets the job done, nothing is perfect. 
peace & outgrow |
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Joe
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Well, it's not about being "perfect"....it's about knowing and understanding your overview of what is needed......example above: Will temps bleed over and affect rez temps......such things are not minor....and can cause serious problems.....
Each and every aspect should be known, and, addressed in some way, shape, or form......
Outdoors allows for more mistakes...indoors, much less forgiving......"smallest" things can cause serious problems......throw on a small deficiency coupled with a drift in pH, and throw high rez temps on top?....well, all "small" problems, but, combine those "small" problems and you have , for the novice grower, a potential serious fuckin problem... |
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von
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joe, yes i agree, there can be so many problems.
peace & outgrow |
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stopthemadness
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| Joe wrote: | Well, it's not about being "perfect"....it's about knowing and understanding your overview of what is needed......example above: Will temps bleed over and affect rez temps......such things are not minor....and can cause serious problems.....
Each and every aspect should be known, and, addressed in some way, shape, or form......
Outdoors allows for more mistakes...indoors, much less forgiving......"smallest" things can cause serious problems......throw on a small deficiency coupled with a drift in pH, and throw high rez temps on top?....well, all "small" problems, but, combine those "small" problems and you have , for the novice grower, a potential serious fuckin problem... |
Do you think you could come help me get my set up right? You observe and analyze everything. I'm not being a smartass. It seems you have alot of excessive insight that you could maybe use to help me perfect my set up, if you would be so kind. lol. seriously though, let me know. |
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Joe
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| stopthemadness wrote: |
Do you think you could come help me get my set up right?
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Well, would be glad to answer couple questions, and, others might be able to offer other points also...
First is to have understanding of overview, then to apply to your situation and method (and, the above good examples...temps, rez temps, how they might effect each other, pH and deficiency issues, etc....)
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You observe and analyze everything. I'm not being a smartass.
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As should you  And neither am I
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It seems you have alot of excessive insight that you could maybe use to help me perfect my set up, if you would be so kind. lol. seriously though, let me know. |
Called "dialed in"......and, set ups are a "work in progress"....No one gets everything dialed in on first run...or second, etc...It's a continued process..... |
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