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Vince
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 Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: Colchicine |
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| Has anyone used Colchicine treatment for potency? |
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Brute4291
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| what exactly is colchicine, and where would you get it? |
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shortyflow
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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excerpt from wikipedia. I had never heard of this either good post.
Since chromosome segregation is driven by microtubules, colchicine is also used for inducing polyploidy in plant cells during cellular division by inhibiting chromosome segregation during meiosis; half the resulting gametes therefore contain no chromosomes, while the other half contain double the usual number of chromosomes (i.e., diploid instead of haploid as gametes usually are), and lead to embryos with double the usual number of chromosomes (i.e. tetraploid instead of diploid). While this would be fatal in animal cells, in plant cells it is not only usually well tolerated, but in fact frequently results in plants which are larger, hardier, faster growing, and in general more desirable than the normally diploid parents; for this reason, this type of genetic manipulation is frequently used in breeding plants commercially. In addition, when such a tetraploid plant is crossed with a diploid plant, the triploid offspring will be sterile, which may be commercially useful in itself by requiring growers to buy seed from the supplier, but also can often be induced to create a "seedless" fruit if pollinated (usually the triploid will also not produce pollen, therefore a diploid parent is needed to provide the pollen). This is the method used to create seedless watermelons, for instance. On the other hand, colchicine's ability to induce polyploidy can be exploited to render infertile hybrids fertile, as is done when breeding triticale from wheat and rye. Wheat is typically tetraploid and rye diploid, with the triploid hybrid infertile. Treatment with colchicine of triploid triticale gives fertile hexaploid triticale.
When used to induce polyploidy in plants, colchicine is usually applied to the plant as a cream. It has to be applied to a growth point of the plant, such as an apical tip, shoot or sucker. Seeds can be presoaked in a colchicine solution before planting. As colchicine is so dangerous, it is worth noting that doubling of chromosome numbers can occur spontaneously in nature, and not infrequently. The best place to look is in regenerating tissue. One way to induce it is to chop off the tops of plants and carefully examine the lateral shoots and suckers to see if any look different. [5] |
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Vince
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: |
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http://greenmanspage.com/guides/yield.html
This site talks about it but I have never heard of it until I read it on this site. I'm thinking of trying it on some average joe seeds to see if it makes them better. |
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Brute4291
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| let us know how it comes out if you do try it |
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Lushh
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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NO! Don't do it! Seriously man, fuck that shit, keep it organic. After all it is weed dude. I dont want my weed to make me throw up and shit my bowles out. After all most people who get it prescribed that I KNOW, use it to reduce nausea.
Colchicine is a highly poisonous alkaloid, originally extracted from plants of the genus Colchicum (Autumn crocus, also known as the "Meadow saffron"). Originally used to treat rheumatic complaints and especially gout, it was also prescribed for its cathartic and emetic effects
| Quote: | Definitions of emetic on the Web:
a medicine that induces nausea and vomiting
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Vomiting (also throwing up or emesis) is the forceful expulsion of the contents of one's stomach through the mouth and sometimes the nose. Vomiting may result from many causes, ranging from gastritis or poisoning to brain tumors, or elevated intracranial pressure (ICP). ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emetic
a substance that induces vomiting.
www.cncahealth.com/health-notes.htm |
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Vince
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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As pointed out on the link I gave the amount in the plant is so little compared to the amount that is prescribed for Gout medication! Plus it is suggested that you not consume the first generation of plants to avoid any toxicity.
Check out this link too.
http://www.carnivorousplants.org/howto/Propagation/Colchicine.php |
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Lushh
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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I dont care, I dont even use fertilizer on my plants. Organic 100% is the way to go, and just regulated temperature, wind and light cycles.
Filtered lights work swell I hear, like blue filters over some high watt CFL's |
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Joe
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Lushh
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| SO DONT USE IT! NEVAR |
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Vince
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: |
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I most likely won't use it anyway since it is quite involving. I was just curious about it and want to hear more about it. Thanks for all the replies and links!  |
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