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designguy91
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Drug Test Reply with quote
Hello Barry,

Please forgive me if this has been asked a million times but I'm in a pinch and need some advice. First off I am a design engineer of 10 years and was recently married. My wife and I have chosen to have a child. With all the finacial scares I was like any soon to be dad looking for some extra income. In my travels I found a company I have always aspired to work for was hiring for my dream position. I desiced to send my resume. Long story short... I got the job. This is a job that will take my family to a new level and I want it very badly. Since my wife became pregnant I smoke much less. Maybe a 1/16 ($20 a week). I only have a week or less to test. What is the best plan to pass. i have been drinking a gallon of water a day for two days now and thought about getting one of those kit things but honestly don't know if they are BS. I can't afford to try it out on this job. Please share your wisdom on this so I can get my dream job and provide for my new son they way I can.

Thanks in advance,

Designguy
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limburger
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok, well I might have some good answers for you. By no means should you listen to any of the crazy stories about drinking massive amounts of water days before your test. It's bunk and will not help you in the days prior. THC is stored in your fat, the only way to get rid of it faster than your body can rid it is to work out a lot. Now if your looking to pass the test I would be more worried about the day of the test (provided the time of the test isn't immediatly when you get up in the morning.

Now here is where the water comes in. Water will help you minimize the cannabaniods in your urine to a undetectable level, but here is the catch. When they do the test on your urine they look for a certain level of creatine. Everyone has a certain amount that is released into the urine, if you have a unusually small amount they will call your test out and you will get a dilute result. Basically looked at as if you had failed. What's the solution? Take creatine the night before and day of your test. You can get it anywhere including GNC and Walmart. You need to take many times the daily dose. Reason being it is so strong in your system that even when you dilute your urine by drinking massive amounts of water you still have a measurable amount of creatine in your urine. Second thing to worry about is the color. Simple answer to this one is riboflavin. It will make your urine remain yellow even when it should be clear as water.

I am not an expert with this kind of thing but I have passed all my tests even when smoking on a daily basis and even the day before and the day of the test. If you look at any of those system cleaning drinks for smokers you will see everything I have listed in there and they tell you to drink loads of water.

Dont listen to any of that goldenseal, niacin, aspirin bullshit because it's flat out wrong. People who pass tests by using this stuff are probably fooling themselves because they are most likely that hardcore pot smoker who's system has basically adapted to high levels of thc. It has been shown that hardcore smokers can have absolutly no level of thc in there urine.

Hope this helps.

*Edit* I was also going to say that if you are only smoking a dimebag a week on average you are one step up on the usual smoker because that is a very small amount.
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designguy91
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for the reply. I have read about the Creatine thing and it makes sense. I have smoke much more in the past but cut down a lot when my wife got pregnant. I find it silly that an educated husband, soon to be dad and responsible adult has to go though this crap. I bearly drink and don't some cigarettes for gods sake. I some to avoid drugs like prozak and others that doctors tell me to talk to deal with the stress of my job. My dealer has told me he passed several time by drinking tons of water the day of and taking vitiman B. I'm just so scared to be out of work with a baby coming in July.
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progrocker
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm going to help you pass so listen to me.

We are going to take MANY precausions to help you get out of this alive.

First. STOP SMOKING -until your test of course.

SECOND START EXCERSIZING- the minute you heard you should have headed your ass to the gym with a gallon of water and the will to run. Sweat, drink, sweat, drink, sweat, drink so on. Do this every day at least 2-3 times. It sucks, but you have to prioritize.

DRINK ALOT OF WATER. don't overdo it cause you'll die, but make sure you are drinking enough so that your piss is white at all times. If you piss yellow, drink more.

This is all you can do until the test, once you get to test time you have a few more options.

Take 4 asprin. - answered on manswers and they said it worked.

Or take a pissing clean product. There are plenty of them out there.

Or, get someone elses urine (make sure it's heated up) and use that. This takes kahunas to do, because it's risky.


Good luck
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progrocker
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://www.cleartest.com/faq/
also

Is there anything I can do or say if I fail a test?
The tests companies use today are extremely flawed. If you fail a test, deny that you have used any illegal substance and insist that there must be something wrong with their test.

Urine tests are unreliable. Many people who have never done any drugs have tested positive for drugs because the tests are not accurate. Demand a second test. They should always give you one. Sometimes a more expensive test will be used if you are being tested for the second time and have raised suspicion, in which case you will want to use concentrated synthetic urine substitute.

Concentrated synthetic urine substitute will work on any test. It is pure, drug-free urine. It has been used successfully by thousands of people. The product comes with directions on how to use.
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Mr.C
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
you need to go buy a home test from your local drugstore and see where your at asap

limburger set u straight,,u can read this for more info

http://www.nevergetbusted.com/ngbbb/viewtopic.php?t=955&highlight=niacin
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socrateez
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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People who pass tests by using this stuff are probably fooling themselves because they are most likely that hardcore pot smoker who's system has basically adapted to high levels of thc. It has been shown that hardcore smokers can have absolutly no level of thc in there urine.

Ive never heard this before. Can you elaborate or Link?
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Mr.C
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ive never heard of that before either,,but as far as the techniques he provided to pass they were good.

progs advice was good too except i would never recommend a cleansing product ,,,never.
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d3dsh33p
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Synthetic urine is the way to go in my opinion.
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socrateez
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I found this for properly dehydrating urine to a powder form:

"The best way
to do this on a commercial scale (up to 2 liters/batch) is to purcahse
a Rotary Evaporator (Rotovap). To see an explanation of how this works
go to http://www.wfu.edu/academics/chemistry/courses/organic/rotovap/Rotovap.htm
The evaporation uses low pressure (vacuum) to reduce the boiling point
of the liquid so that much less heat is required, depending on the
amount of vacuum and time that you are willing to wait water can be
removed at the rate of ~1 liter/hour at a temperature slightly over
room temperature (faster with elevated temperatures). These machines
(used) will cost on the order of $200->1000 depending on the model and
where you buy it from (new systems will be >$3000). Buchi makes a
standard model that you may be able to bid on from an outfit which
sells used lab equipment such as www.labx.com (look under the category
evaporators)."
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limburger
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quote:
Ive never heard this before. Can you elaborate or Link?


Well I have read this before but was a while ago so I will try to clear it up. Aparently the hardest of smokers sometimes can come up clean on tests. I'm not talking about your average couch potato of course. Someone who is skinny/average and smokes nonstop. Basically when I was reading the info it was talking about how the persons system can adapt to high levels of THC. Plus with hardly any fat to store the THC it was a matter of a day, or hours before it was out of the system. I will try to find a link to some info about this, but I have witnessed one of my buddies pass a test with no preparation. I found it extremely odd till I read the info. Was the skinniest shit you had ever seen and he smoked like it was going out of style....passed the test
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limburger
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
"Synthetic urine is the way to go in my opinion."

Yeah I went wrong and got a co-worker to piss in a bottle. It was clean and all, I passed, but physically tucking some other dudes bottle of piss under my nuts was very unsettling. Felt like I needed a serious shower.
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dawsonspaw
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
for the temperature cups,if you go ahead and piss in it and let the temp register,pour it out and dump in the clean sample..........temps right and pass cool
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Bongzilla
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I used a product for years that I've mentioned before.
http://theurinator.com/whizzpack/
Synthetic substitute. Never a problem/
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designguy91
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Honestly I smoke so little that I would like to avoid sneaking in piss if possible. I tried that before and the bottle I used did not hold enough so I had to add some of mine. I was smoking much more then. When I test I will have been weed free for about 3 weeks and I smoke about a gram a weekend before the 3 weeks off. Do you feel a drink will work for me?
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