The religious defense: the ultimate cop-out?
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xlldo
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: The religious defense: the ultimate cop-out? Reply with quote
Anybody have an opinion on the religious defence for using sacramental herb? I claimed this defense as a teenager (tongue partly in cheek) while standing before a provincial judge charged with possessing mushrooms (I was busted while picking them from the grass in front of my high school; mushrooms had just become criminalized in BC months earlier). As you can imagine, he did not respond (did I detect a smile? a smirk? what was that?).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: religion and pot Reply with quote
xlldo, 'CANTHEISM' is based on cannabis as a mystical religion based on the inherent goodness of the cannabis plant, and should be reconized under the 1st Amendment and provide equal protection of the law under the 14th amendment. it has not stood up in the courts, the leos & judges dont want to reconize it as a religion.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
everytime i read "Leos" i get kinda sad and feel hated. like, why is everyone hating my astrological sign on this forum!? then i realize i'm stoned and LEOs has a diffrent meaning around here big grin
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xlldo
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow. Cantheism sounds pretty extreme. I like my sacramental wine, etc, too.

What's LEO?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
serouisly, whats a LEO? L.aw E.nforcement O.fficer. i would never talk bad about you guys. Silenced .
CANTHEISM is real.

d'oh! peace & blueberry
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Penance wrote:
everytime i read "Leos" i get kinda sad and feel hated. like, why is everyone hating my astrological sign on this forum!? then i realize i'm stoned and LEOs has a diffrent meaning around here big grin

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Isnt there a rhasta religion, that Bob Marley was.
Anyone have knowledge on that?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hey Brute 4291, 'CANTHEOLOGY'. the philosophical roots of 'CANTHEISM' and 'RASTAFARI' both have used cannabis sacramentally and ceremonially. Genesis 1:29-31, they are basicly the same.
Chris Conrad wrote a book on the subject.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Damn your Peace & randomness! always making me laugh, how dare you put a smile on my face. big grin
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xlldo
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Leos, being what they are, historically have often hung out with the lions of religion and morality who dictate what substances shall be used and how, by whom, etc. All part of an effort to prevent people from having their own, unmediated spiritual experiences. Otherwise people tap into things that liberate their minds from the carefully crafted orthodoxy and propaganda surrounding them. Feed your head!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Xlldo, Could you give me the name of the book and author?

And yes I lack knowledge about theology.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ive read this and others like it for a view on what Western Christianity considers cults.http://www.waltermartin.com/cults.html
Another suggestion:
http://www.serve.com/cmtan/Dhammapada/
And finally for the world overview on Theology, I defer to Wiki to compile more source material than I can muster:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_theology
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xlldo
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Brute4291 what book?

Seems to me that every culture has, or has had, its drug of preference (or was that availability?) and that the users in each culture would have ascribed some sort of spiritual meaning to their chosen substance (even if only to get the moralists off their backs).

What I find striking is how Mexicans in the US and Chinese in Canada were brought in to work fields and build railways but as soon as they starting acquiring wealth and power and strong communities (albeit in the ghettos) their sacred stuff became prohibited with cannibis and opium laws.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
There are a number of really good and informative videos posted on The Green Earth Ministries website.

Click Here To See The List

God wouldn't have put it here if he didn't intend for us to use it when needed.

The leaves were used for medicine to heal the nations - Revelations 22:2
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
hey xlldo, you asked about a book, was it the book on cantheism, check this sight out.
http://www.equalrights4all.org/religious/cantheist.html
everything about cantheism. Pray

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