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Penance
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an intresting little plant that may soon become as demonized as marijuana. anyone have any experience with salvia? please share.
i've tried it once but it really didnt have any effect other than to make me cough my lungs up and want to gargle, to be fair i was drunk and stoned already. salvia bong rips taste like vomit and burn worse than uncured buds, yet i still want to try again, just to see if maybe it will effect me. |
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FZRaven
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:48 am Post subject: |
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I had some 40x extract this summer, It was very odd.
I was sitting in the back of my friends car riding down the road. Right after I took the hit everything felt normal, then the car started to pull apart from the center. So now I'm right out of my mind thinking that all that's holding the car together is my toes hooked on the front seat. I can't lean forward and grab the seat because it feel's like I'm stuck to the seat. This lasted for about 3-5 minutes then it was all over.
That was my first and only experience with salvia. I'm not against trying it again but I want to be in a better environment(IE not riding down the road). |
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socrateez
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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I am experienced with Salvia Divinorum.
It is not addictive
It is not lethal or harmful
Its over in a few minutes.
It can take hours or more to fully appreciate the experience.
Its sensitivity in people is highly variable. I'm a light weight to the Diviners Sage. a friend barely has an experience off strong extract.
You need someone with you and dont drive!!!!
It is a religious plant from mexico.
It will fuck you up like no other drug!
If you have ever seen the Simpsons episode where he eats the chili at the chili cook-off, then you know what salvia is like.
My first time was with 20X and it ripped my mind out of my body.
It can be very pleasant and spiritual, it can be scary as hell too.
Best place to start:
http://www.sagewisdom.org/faq.html
http://www.sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html
If you want unbiased experiences and info regarding using just about anything, go here:
http://www.erowid.org/ |
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Penance
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| this just motivates me further. i need to go get some soon as i can, give it another shot. and reccomning wise what do you think is better, extract or the leaves themselves? |
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FZRaven
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Well if your going to smoke it, the extracts are better. With just the leaves you have to really toke on the pipe fast to get enough into your system quick enough. Salvinorin A is metabolized very quick, you have to take in a decent amount real fast with the leaves.
Now if your going to take it orally you'll be wanting the leaves. |
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Brute4291
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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It is commonly used in dessert landscaping
Its much like a very mild acid trip that doesnt last long. Friends of mine use to put some in a joint. |
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socrateez
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Brute4291 wrote: | It is commonly used in dessert landscaping
Its much like a very mild acid trip that doesnt last long. Friends of mine use to put some in a joint. |
Common misconception. It is a very specific type of sage that has these properties.
Slavinorin A requires much higher temps to vaporize its actives which metabolize quickly.
You didnt smoke it right. 
Salvia is mild at low doses. The experience ( I wont call it a high) The effects change dramatically with dosage!
A level 5 experience on salvia passes through acid type visuals quickly.(seconds) The fartherst acid has taken me was a tour around the block, while salvia left this dimension.
If you like lsd MDMA Spec K peyote, shrooms, and other strong psychedelics and dissociatives, than I would say give it a shot and follow sagewisdoms advice.
Daniel Seibert is the authority on this stuff.
Here is what its like...sort of.
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Bongzilla
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Never heard of it... Very interesting, how would you compare it to DMT, or is it the same thing? Sounds similar.  |
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Penance
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| socrateez wrote: |
Common misconception. It is a very specific type of sage that has these properties.
Slavinorin A requires much higher temps to vaporize its actives which metabolize quickly.
You didnt smoke it right.
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i used a torch lighter when i smoked it. maybe i should have smoked more because i only smoked 1 bowl and it was with a friend. |
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socrateez
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Salvia needs to have the flame continually in contact with the leaf. Hot glowing coal isnt hot enough to release the actives like pot |
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trox9999
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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We used a pipe or bong, we had to light it with the flame and suck deep and fast take in a much as you can because once it hits you can't toke no more cus it will send you off to your other world. Oh the most important part is you have to hold it in your lungs as long as you can! Usually 30 secs but most ppl are gone off b4 30 secs.
For me, I ran, fell to the ground and everything turned into a cartoon and a school bus came out of the wall and folded up like an umbrella and then a grade 3 teacher started teaching me things and it was over in like umm 60 seconds felt like 10 minutes though...it's both physical and mental..
My friend when he took it said he jumped into a painting that was on his wall and started runing around inside of the painting.
My other friend who we tricked into smoking telling him it was weed..lol..started screaming as it creeped up on him what did you give me!..what did you give me!. he fell to the patio floor and reached at our feet.
Later he told us he saw laser beams come down and cut him into pieces and then cut him in half and thats why he reached for our feet cus he thought he was dying. Then it was over and he laughed after he bitched for a bit saying "i'm ok?, i'm not dying?"..jokes
Watch the salvia trips here!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJXb7QFcK0M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj0JapvAtoY |
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Brute4291
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| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd say it is similar to DMT. But i heard with DMT you dont remember your trips but with salvia you do. |
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Bongzilla
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Thanks brute!  |
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